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But "When the president does it, that means it is not illegal": Trump thread LXXXVIII

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lionheart · 03/12/2018 22:47

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But "When the president does it, that means it is not illegal": Trump thread LXXXVIII
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Gumpendorf · 03/12/2018 22:51

Thanks lion Thanks

Gumpendorf · 03/12/2018 22:53

Just adding link to previous thread so we can keep tabs. Smile

Democrats win the House, and he’s already fired Sessions: Trump thread 87 http://www.mumsnet.com/Talk/amiibeingunreasonable/3421164-Democrats-win-the-House-and-he-s-already-fired-Sessions-Trump-thread-87

lionheart · 03/12/2018 22:53

Yes, isn't it?

'"There is no doubt the relationship has worsened. He tried again to muck around in our elections this last month," Mattis said. "We are seeing a continued effort around those lines."

Mattis said the Trump administration and other NATO allies have pressed Russia repeatedly on un-democratic actions, but to no avail.

"This is a very complex situation because clearly Mr. Putin is a slow learner," Mattis said. "He is not recognizing that what he is doing is actually creating the animosity against his people."'

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AcrossthePond55 · 03/12/2018 22:55

Great title and excellent pic!! Had a real belly laugh! Thanks, Lion

AcrossthePond55 · 03/12/2018 22:58

My paranoia had me wondering at first if this statement by Mattis was the opening salvo in the Regime trying to invalidate the Blue Wave. But then I calmed down and took off my tin foil hat.

PerkingFaintly · 03/12/2018 23:02

Grin Thank you for shiny new thread and pic, lionheart.

lionheart · 03/12/2018 23:05

eu.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2018/12/03/michael-cohen-plea-deal-donald-trump-tower-moscow-russia-column/2183355002/

'It appears that the Mueller investigation is reaching its endgame. After a two-month hiatus for the midterms, special counsel Robert Mueller's team is prepared to once again show its work. These developments are ominous for President Donald Trump. In short order, expect to see a case of conspiracy to interfere with the 2016 election to be laid out in court.

Defenders of the president have, despite the obvious progress of the Mueller investigation — more than 30 indictments or guilty pleas, including Trump’s campaign chairman, personal lawyer, national security adviser, deputy campaign manager and foreign policy adviser — consistently argued that “no collusion” has been proved. While it is true that the charges made public have not alleged conspiracy (there is no crime of “collusion”) it should be clear to all but the most obtuse by now that the endgame is drawing near. Mueller is laying out the predicate for a wide-ranging conspiracy case that will likely ensnare the president’s family and, quite likely, Trump himself.'

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lionheart · 03/12/2018 23:06

Trying not to count chickens and all that but I am hopeful. Smile

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PossiblyPFB · 03/12/2018 23:07

Longtime lurker of this amazing thread saga. As a token gesture of joining in, may I add this gem in case you’ve not seen it just yet. Rudy’s trolled tweet being the winner IMHO. I checked Twitter and it’s still live as of quite recently.

www.newsandguts.com/trump-tweets-twittersphere-trolls/?fbclid=IwAR13CizLYiPvBS13sniVcuXwn6HUDUGdxQrqDFRU9CjbY1ptT4cvIgQ6sIc

lionheart · 03/12/2018 23:07

Gosh, I didn't think of that Across. Shock

Thanks Gum.

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lionheart · 03/12/2018 23:09

Hello Possibly. Smile

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yolofish · 03/12/2018 23:24

longtime lurker - and placemarker - but reader... so disapointed we are onto no. whatever,

lionheart · 03/12/2018 23:25

www.lawfareblog.com/what-judge-should-ask-mueller-about-trumps-tweets

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TheNorthWestPawsage · 03/12/2018 23:26

Thanks for the new thread lion. Here's hoping it's not long until the curtain's up for the finale! Glitterball

lionheart · 03/12/2018 23:28

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TheClaws · 04/12/2018 00:00

Thanks lion, and I like your thread title. All those Trumpies would agree with the sentiment. With the revelation of Trump Tower Moscow shenanigans, they were like pfft! So what? Don’t see the issue here? I thought if it were Hillary, now, the pitchforks would well and truly be out. If it were Obama, the lack of punctuation and excessive use of capitals would bring down the entire internet. But Trump? Nah. He’s a real estate developer doing what he does. Lightly.

MerdedeBrexit · 04/12/2018 03:45

Thank you for the new thread, lionheart. I'll mention it being the 88th thread here to show we're not scared of the bastard alt-right and their ilk. Grin

Here is Dan Rather's perspective on Bush Senior's death. The part I have put in bold struck me forcefully.

"I have been collecting my thoughts on the passing of President George H. W. Bush. The death of any former president is a big deal. It is a small club who have served in that exalted office and we can't help but mark the march of history, reflecting on where our nation is and where it once was. It was to be expected that this particular death would be amplified by the fraught political prism in which we find ourselves.

I would venture that most of the avalanche of articles, columns, and tributes to President Bush carry an explicit or implicit comparison with the current president. We see allusions to service, temperament and a distant vision of the Republican Party. Amidst the encomia; there have also been some who are critical of the late president, focusing particularly on the Iran Contra scandal, the first Iraq War and domestic policies.

One cannot serve for as long as Mr. Bush did and in the positions he held without amassing a record that would be subject to debate. I saw his presidency in real time through the lens of journalism. What we reported is part of the historical record, and I will leave it to historians to put his public life into a broader context.

I will always honor a life of service. And my condolences go out to the Bush family, the women and men whom he loved deeply and who loved him back. I mourn the passing of a time that he exemplified, when politics often rose above partisanship. I mourn for a time when men of privilege felt duty bound to serve their country in war. I mourn a time when our Constitutional transfer of power between administrations of different parties was handled with grace and when those who fought in pitched political battles could still reach out to each other as fellow citizens bound by our common humanity.

Many say that the era of President Bush has long since passed. That is in many ways obvious, but that's true for all eras of history. We are at a perilous place today, but we have been through many before. Mr. Bush, blessed with a long life, lived and served through many moments where the future of our nation and world seemed destined to be bleak. I trust, however, that he never lost faith in a notion that we can once again summon up our better angels. Optimism is part of the American character and we can use this moment of reflection to renew the call for a better and more just nation.

And so, with all this in mind, Rest In Peace President Bush. You served our country well."

MerdedeBrexit · 04/12/2018 03:51

A bit more from Mr Rather, this time on election fraud.

"Big story. A GOP victory in a North Carolina congressional race is under a serious cloud of election fraud. Where's the outrage from those who've long used the "voter fraud" mantra to suppress (mostly minority) votes? It's rank hypocrisy. We need a hard, honest look at the injustices around how we vote.

I sometimes wonder, what if a fairy godmother could come, wave a magic wand, and instantly wipe away those injustices around the vote - the suppression, the gerrymandering, the long lines at the polls, all of it. Let's say nothing else changed about our country or our fellow citizens, just that. How different would our government look and function?"

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 04/12/2018 06:10

DC, Md. officials ready with subpoenas in Trump hotel case

apnews.com/96a295d90acf449dbf41f6fee4c28d63

The attorneys general of the District of Columbia and Maryland said Monday that they are moving forward with subpoenas for records in their case accusing President Donald Trump of profiting off the presidency.

U.S. District Court Judge Peter J. Messitte approved the legal discovery schedule in an order Monday. Such information would likely provide the first clear picture of the finances of Trump’s Washington, D.C., hotel.

[...]District of Columbia Attorney General Karl A. Racine said in a statement that the subpoenas would go out to third-party organizations and federal agencies “to gather the necessary evidence to prove that President Trump is violating the Constitution’s emoluments clauses — our nation’s original anti-corruption laws.”

Gumpendorf · 04/12/2018 06:13

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There's more. There were three copies of the new NAFTA deal to sign. During the signing ceremony, President Trump appears to sign in the wrong place on one of them.

This is the exact moment everyone realized, individually with their reactions, including Prime Minister Trudeau. https://twitter.com/MuhammadLila/status/1069609790802784257/video/1

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 04/12/2018 06:16

Another “endgame” story

Mueller preparing endgame for Russia investigation

news.yahoo.com/mueller-preparing-end-game-russia-investigation-225720798.html

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Mueller's spokesman confirmed to Yahoo News that the upcoming Manafort memo "will be public," although he added some portions may be redacted.

The Manafort memo will spell out what matters federal prosecutors believe Manafort has lied to them about.

"The fact that Mueller is planning a public filing about Manafort suggests he may no longer feel the need to withhold information about his case in order to bring additional indictments against others."

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 04/12/2018 06:20

Manafort Tried to Broker Deal With Ecuador to Hand Assange Over to U.S.

www.nytimes.com/2018/12/03/us/politics/manafort-assange-wikileaks-ecuador.html

[...]They said Mr. Manafort suggested he could help negotiate a deal for the handover of Mr. Assange to the United States, which has long investigated Mr. Assange for the disclosure of secret documents and which later filed charges against him that have not yet been made public.

Within a couple of days of Mr. Manafort’s final meeting in Quito, Robert S. Mueller III was appointed as the special counsel to investigate Russian interference in the 2016 election and related matters, and it quickly became clear that Mr. Manafort was a primary target. His talks with Ecuador ended without any deals.

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 04/12/2018 06:23

Mueller's breadcrumbs suggest he has the goods

www.axios.com/mueller-investigation-report-details-court-filings-2511dd33-1928-4431-a9bb-09488ee216ef.html

[...] One of the least-noticed elements of the special counsel's approach is that all along, he has been making his case bit by bit, in public, since his very first court filing. With his major court filings so far, Mueller has already written more than 290 pages of the "Mueller Report." And there are still lots of loose ends in those documents — breadcrumbs Mueller is apparently leaving for later.

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 04/12/2018 06:28

From the yahoo article

“A Flynn sentencing memo is due Tuesday and memos about Manafort and Cohen are slated for Friday. All three documents are expected to yield significant new details on what cooperation the three of them provided to the Russia investigation.”

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 04/12/2018 06:40

Oh Eric

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