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AIBU to wonder when woman started obsessing over their lady garden?

363 replies

Hellsbells35 · 03/12/2018 08:21

I had the misfortune of watching Naked Attraction and was shocked at the lack of pubes...and how people were berated for having a postage stamp sized amount. The men’s view also seemed to be strange where there was a definite trend for those looking like a plucked turkey.

I dabbled with a Brazilian when I was in my twenties but soon stopped when I realised it was a complete waste of time and money.

I now have a full bush and I love it. I really don’t see the appeal of shaving/waxing to have horrid regrowth and ingrown hairs or to look like a child.

AIBU to think we should all band together and let our lady gardens flourish to turn the tide on this degrading trend?

OP posts:
greenpop21 · 03/12/2018 20:44

Winter that will be their choice but right now they don't want to but feel they should. That is very sad. For the record, I have no problem with others doing it, I object to being told I am dirty or 'Ewwww'(ridiculous expression) or to young girls feeling they are not worthy unless they go bald because of a man's preference for a prepubescent look.

greenpop21 · 03/12/2018 20:45

Bore off yourself !

SmiledWithTheRisingSun · 03/12/2018 20:45

If we bushy types were jealous it's really quite easy to be hairless though isn't it?

I'm happy to admit that I have removed my pubes in the past. I just made a conscious decision a few years back to stop.

It's like wearing thongs. I went through a few misguided years of doing that too.

Why so defensive you hairless ladies? Why not be aware of the agenda of those people who influence your decisions? What's wrong with that? Your Fanny aesthetic is clearly influenced by the pornification of our culture. Why can't you see that? It's not a judgement it's just a fact.

SmiledWithTheRisingSun · 03/12/2018 20:46

Completely agree greenpop!

SmiledWithTheRisingSun · 03/12/2018 20:47

Yay bushes all the way!! 🤣🌳🤣🌳🤣🌳🤣🌳🤣🌳🤣🌳🤣

greenpop21 · 03/12/2018 20:50

Jealous??? Grin Of what?

Polkapjs · 03/12/2018 20:52

I quite like a bit but totally free of hair at sides and underneath is easier for swimwear and had a wax once where they said “all off yes? May as well?” (Suspect as easier for them rather than topiary!) and had that ever since. Shaving and all other methods are awful for me and as I like to swim and not have “spiders” poking out. It’s nothing to do with anything other than that but it does annoy me that DH seems to like it Angry

JacquesHammer · 03/12/2018 20:54

Why so defensive you hairless ladies? Why not be aware of the agenda of those people who influence your decisions? What's wrong with that? Your Fanny aesthetic is clearly influenced by the pornification of our culture. Why can't you see that? It's not a judgement it's just a fact

Because as I said earlier I lost mine through illness. Pretty sure that isn’t influenced by porn...I have no agenda.

But suggesting I look childlike is pure bollocks.

greenpop21 · 03/12/2018 20:56

Individual instances/reasons are quite aside from the general trend hammer and there will always be exceptions.

Wherearemymarbles · 03/12/2018 20:56

This type of thread would be far more interesting if people said how old they were.

Im 50. Until the late 90’s i never came accross a single woman who shaved/waxed if off.
So those of my age who do shave, when did you start, at puberty in the 80’s or a decade or two later

JacquesHammer · 03/12/2018 20:58

Individual instances/reasons are quite aside from the general trend hammer and there will always be exceptions

You’re missing the point. It doesn’t actually matter why I am hair free, the “it’s childlike” trope is very tired and completely inaccurate.

I’m not going to grow it back suddenly. Should I be concerned about any man who enjoys sex with me?

greenpop21 · 03/12/2018 21:01

I would be concerned/totally put off a guy who wanted me to be hair free. If I happened to lose it through illness,that would be a totally different scenario because DH wouldn't have asked for it.

greenpop21 · 03/12/2018 21:01

I'm 47.

SmiledWithTheRisingSun · 03/12/2018 21:02

So your hairlessness isn't a conscious decision then is it jaques?

Sorry to hear you were ill.

JacquesHammer · 03/12/2018 21:04

That’s my point Smiled

Thanks though. It wasn’t serious and I’m all fine now.

SmiledWithTheRisingSun · 03/12/2018 21:07

Oh glad to hear it Smile

But the original point is about why people make the choice to go hairless.

EverardDigby · 03/12/2018 21:10

Im 50. Until the late 90’s i never came accross a single woman who shaved/waxed if off.
So those of my age who do shave, when did you start, at puberty in the 80’s or a decade or two later

Same age. I remember being incredulous in discussing it with a work colleague in the mid 1990s after discovering that women in a particularly niche area of BDSM shaved it all off. I've never bothered.

Sethis · 03/12/2018 21:18

I'm a big fan of giving oral, and not getting a mouthful of pubes is a definite plus, for men AND women. I tend my pubic hair for this reason, out of consideration for my partner, because I don't imagine she much likes a mouthful of pubes either.

But the irony amuses me that when a man tells a women how to tend her ladygarden, that's "degrading" and "patriarchy" but when a woman tells a woman how to tend her lady garden that's... somehow okay?

Surely it's just her business?

fringegrin45 · 03/12/2018 21:34

There's a diagram that shows fashions for the 'lady garden' getting smaller, as men's facial hair gets more. Starting about the early noughties.

For some reason this really made me laugh! As if the pubes are migrating to the chins

Re timing. I think it had more to do with fashion than porn originally in the 2000s. Also around that era, lapdancing clubs were in the ascendancy.

At least in the early days (post internet but pre smartphone) I doubt girls were accessing that much porn but probably were reading about "Brazilians" in fashion mags etc. And fretting that if others were doing it they'd seem weird. Then boys got used to it and reinforced it porn.

But I thought pubes were now coming back in fashion again

fringegrin45 · 03/12/2018 21:38

Sorry that should have said "and porn reinforced it"

GloryforGloves · 03/12/2018 21:40

Your Fanny aesthetic is clearly influenced by the pornification of our culture. Why can't you see that? It's not a judgement it's just a fact

Or, as I already said, I just like the feel of it waxed. Didn’t have it waxed in my 20s; same partner for 11 years so not his influence; don’t watch porn - thought it would be easier for my slightly revealing holiday once and I’ve now decided I like the feel of my clothes on my bare skin AND oral has been much better since waxing. Nothing to do with porn, not even down to aesthetics on a day-to-day basis (holiday aside), but down to how I feel. Why can’t you see that past your judgement and bias? Why are you assuming facts about posters here when you don’t really know?

Rattinghat · 03/12/2018 21:40

That silly cow Gwyneth Paltrow was influential in kicking it off. And lately she has said she grew it all back. In between shoving coffee up her arse of course.

MsLexic · 03/12/2018 21:40

I find it a complete turn off. Each to his/her own.

MsLexic · 03/12/2018 21:41

Baldness of the nethers, I mean.

Rattinghat · 03/12/2018 21:46

Shaven haven it used to be called

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