AIBU to wonder when woman started obsessing over their lady garden?

[Hellsbells35]

I had the misfortune of watching Naked Attraction and was shocked at the lack of pubes...and how people were berated for having a postage stamp sized amount. The men’s view also seemed to be strange where there was a definite trend for those looking like a plucked turkey.

I dabbled with a Brazilian when I was in my twenties but soon stopped when I realised it was a complete waste of time and money.

I now have a full bush and I love it. I really don’t see the appeal of shaving/waxing to have horrid regrowth and ingrown hairs or to look like a child.

AIBU to think we should all band together and let our lady gardens flourish to turn the tide on this degrading trend?

'Obsessing' over your pubes and how 'tidy and shaven they are' is no worse than obsessing over other people doing things differently to them.

Why be so bothered about what other women do?

And shock horror, SOME women have a shaven minge because they want it like that, they enjoy sex more like that, and they don't give a shit what anyone else thinks!

And I agree that anyone who thinks a grown women with a shaved minge looks like a child, needs serious help. Why not mind your own damn business @hellbells35 If you prefer to go around with hairy bush down there, then go ahead........ but some people prefer not to.

No-one is pressured into it, and it's fuckall to do with porn. Grow up.

It is also horrible when you're on your period. Ewwwwww.

I do find it very hard to believe that midwives would have been discussing a new mother's big bush of pubes though. I don't believe that.

And so what if a full minge is 'natural' - so are a lot of things, but we alter them! Eg, we dye our hair, shave our legs, shave our armpits, whiten our teeth, pierce parts of our body, put indelible ink on it, (tattoos,)put on a bra to make our tits look firmer and higher up, wear make up to make ourselves look like we have smoother skin/less blemishes and zits, and larger eyes etc...

I can guarantee 100% that EVERY WOMAN who is finger-wagging, and judging, and commenting on other women shaving their pubes, wears make up and jewellery, and wears a bra, or has piercings or tattoos, or dyes their hair........... Anyone who says that they don't. I don't believe you. Not for a second. Typical mumsnet double standards!

He's not scared of getting a bit of blood on him sometimes either. Because he's a grown up man. He can deal with a grown woman.

Interesting article about Team Sky, backs up some of the statements about the benefits of pubes: www.theguardian.com/sport/blog/2016/aug/15/team-gb-cycling-saddle-sore-medals

"I'd feel a bit iffy about a man who was only interested in a woman who had genitalia like a little girl's."

No Woman's genitalia, even if she hasn't had children, looks like a little girl's.

I suppose we started worrying about it when Queen Victoria started the idea that any Woman who removed hers was a Whore. It was popular to remove public hair in times gone by.

In previous times, were Women could be sexually free, they removed public hair.

Growing it went hand-in-hand with Female sexual repression.

I'm no longer sexually active, but I feel better completely bald, so I'll continue to be that way.

I'm not going to be pressured into doing something or changing myself because others want me to.

How can you not see the comparison with children?

Because it’s ridiculous. I still have an adult, female body. I have breasts, hips, the resulting body changes from childbirth.

The lack of hair doesn’t in any way make me look childlike.

My hair on my head is dark brown, my pubes have turned grey/white. This is not attractive in my view and makes me feel older than I look everywhere else so that is the only reason I wax it all off. It is a hassle and expensive and before my hair started offending me, I had never touched it and was totally happy with a full bush!

Winter Heads up for you: OP asked the question, others are giving their answers. I don't spend my time finger wagging women for shaving their pubes just as you don't make periods an 'ewwww' worthy occurrence, well maybe you do!

"How can you not see the comparison with children"

I only find Men with shaved faces sexually attractive. Does that make me a Paedophile?

My DH does not have an issue with rubbing my clit - we just move the hair out the way. It's not difficult 🤷🏻‍♀️

PMSL!!! 😂😂😂

Don't be daft Hammer , I would have serious worries about a guy who wanted me to be bald in that area.

Mumm is there a minge version of beard dye????

@Greenpop21

The OP has not just 'asked a question' she has judged people harshly, and so have a few other posters. And she lost the argument and made herself look awful (IMO) when she said a shaved minge makes a GROWN WOMAN look like a child.

DREADFUL thing to say She should be ashamed of herself.

Don't be daft Hammer , I would have serious worries about a guy who wanted me to be bald in that area

I don’t have no hair because of male request for a start so not sure why your point is relevant. The guy I sleep with enjoys sleeping with me (an adult woman...) hairless or otherwise.

But I have serious worries about someone who things no hair = pre-pubescent. How obtuse.

I'm not going to be pressured into doing something or changing myself because others want me to.

That's the whole point, young women are feeling that pressure right now!!

I don’t agree or like the comments that being hairfree has to be down to porn or being impressionable in young age.

I’ve usually only had full on Brazilian waxes for holidays, and for the years before DS and the first year of his life I did sport a full on bush. However, I waxed it off again for a holiday a few months ago and honestly feel better without it. I like the way silk pants feel against my bare skin (surely you recognise the same feeling with freshly shaved legs on clean bedsheets?) and oral sex is definitely intensified for me.

Fine, you like your bush then you enjoy it - but why do you even care how others like to keep (or not) their pubic hair? Surely it’s incredibly unfeminist to judge other women’s bodily choices?

It's odd to do something to your body and not think about the reasons influencing that decision.

Pubic hair and blood are not dirty.

It's like the whole skinny models thing is all about making women look pathetic & childlike. And it makes me feel
really sad that grown women are comparing themselves to this pathetic ideal of "feminine".

Women should be strong and fit not anorexic and like children/ drug addicts / victims.

Think about WHY society makes you feel that your natural body is somehow shameful or dirty?

No-ones squeamish in the same way about sperm are they?

Totally disagree winter and as a mother of 2 DDs, find it distasteful that pube free is seen as the only way to look to be deemed sexually attractive.

I only remove it all when I botch the trimming. I hate it. It's sticky, sweaty and feels so exposed.

It's not about judging anyone it's about being aware of the influences in society and the motives behind them.

@greendale21

I never said 'bald only' fannies were the only sexually attractive ones

YOU did!

@WinterfellWench Saying literally no woman is pressured into shaving is not true at all. Whenever these teen sex shows come on TV and the question of body hair comes up the answer is always some variation of 'because boys like it better'.

Not everyone is shaving for boys/men but a lot do.

sorry I mean @greenpop21

I came across a merkin on Etsy yesterday. Maybe a full 70s porno bush is on the way back?

Also @greenpop21 I can guarantee that at least ONE of your DD's will shave their pubes at some point.

How on earth will you cope faints!!!!!

These threads always go the same way. Any woman who shaves her minge is only doing it for her man, she looks like a child (so her man must be a peedo,) she is bowing to the patriarchy, and it all comes from porn.

Just bore off!

I have never ever ever seen ANYone start a thread on here complaining about women NOT shaving their pubic hair. Always see women with full bushes having a spiteful, bitchy dig at women who DO shave though. What does that say about them?

How about you mind you own damn business and let women do what they want with their own bodies? The way some women go on about other women shaving their pubes - criticising and judging, makes me suspect that they are jealous of their neat, clean, tidy little fannies, (and the fact they shave it,) but haven't got the nerve to do it themselves.

People are only usually bitchy and critical if they are jealous.

That's what's happening here. As I said, bore off and mind your own business! And here's a shock for ya! Women do it for THEMSELVES not for the men ... despite you wanting to believe differently!