AIBU to wonder when woman started obsessing over their lady garden?

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I had the misfortune of watching Naked Attraction and was shocked at the lack of pubes...and how people were berated for having a postage stamp sized amount. The men’s view also seemed to be strange where there was a definite trend for those looking like a plucked turkey.

I dabbled with a Brazilian when I was in my twenties but soon stopped when I realised it was a complete waste of time and money.

I now have a full bush and I love it. I really don’t see the appeal of shaving/waxing to have horrid regrowth and ingrown hairs or to look like a child.

AIBU to think we should all band together and let our lady gardens flourish to turn the tide on this degrading trend?

I'm watching naked attraction. The dick really does look like "the last chicken in the shop" I certainly wouldnt be using that to pick a potential partner.

Go to any art gallery and have a nosey at the paintings. Hair in art must’ve been very scary until relatively recently!

I think full removal is really common. The MWs who stitched up my 2nd degree tear were both discussing my "full head" and how unusual it was these days and my women's health physio said the same.

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How completely inappropriate.

OMG I'm due no.2 in April and I will be mortified if the MW starts discussing my full bush!!

PhilODox I couldn’t agree more.

Don't know why it matters, I've shaved or trimmed since I got hair down there because of various reasons a) think it is better during sex, I don't like my DP to have loads of hair either he also trims down there b) periods seem to be really whiffy when it grows out, it's cleaner to have less hair especially when heavy and c) I don't want to be on the beach or poolside with hair poking out around my lovely high cut swimwear

Don't really care what anyone else thinks tbh. A bit of hair around the front is fine, a token amount, but the whole hairy arse hole, groin etc is grim

Phil I can't say I sweat much down that region and have never noticed sweat 'collecting' there are no folds or anything around the groin for it to collect in surely it would just run down onto your things if you were out running or something?

It's a fashion.

forty years or more ago, no one did this- or only the few- it certainly wasn't talked about.

The most we worried about was whether a few spiders were showing from our bikini bottoms so quick shave or whatever at tops of thighs.

There is some truth in women who get rid of it all looking childlike even on a sub conscious level. The reason we have body hair, looking at it from an evolutionary perspective, is to show males we are sexually mature and can be 'fertilised', and also to trap pheromones to increase our attractiveness to those males. (Adjusts David Attenborough hat.)

Although a women with no hair still has boobs, her lack of pubic hair is a contradiction to perceived sexual maturity.

I simply don't understand women who prefer men with no pubes- even if they protest it makes oral sex cleaner, nicer whatever. Crikey, you must be devouring him if you pull hairs off at the same time!

I've had men who were very very hairy and never once got a stray hair anywhere.

I've also never met any men who said they preferred shaved women. Most were ok either way, (these were platonic men friends) or preferred women to look natural.

I was at all girls school in the 80s. It was never a thing then.

I think the interest began around 2000 - coincidentally at the same time as the growth in internet porn. Cultural shift/fashion.

This has been going on for centuries. Women removing pubicgaud is the norm in Islamic cultures where women’s anatomy is regarded quite dirty and access to hygenibe facilities can be historically quite limited due to a dry climate. It is weird imo. Definitely not the norm from what I have seen.

It hasn’t been going on for centuries in Britain. It’s very much a fashion of our time.

jeanclaude I don't mean exercise sweat, I mean during normal living. I work at a desk all day, but I keep my office on the warm side (health-related, hence the surgeries), not particularly active. I'm very slim, so not fat folds, just the bit of your groin that is the 'channel' at the tops of your legs when one is seated, I find it gets damp there, and I really don't like it! I don't sweat anywhere else, and I only ever noticed this when I have removed all pubic hair. I don't want to wear anti-perspirant in my groin!
Sorry if that's tmi!

Good point helmet no-one I was at school with removed hair. My school was 50% Asian Muslim.
We all showered together...

No one agrees on this. I remove everything feel dirty otherwise and scruffy

Each to their own. I started shaving mine as a teen, I had never seen (or had much awareness) of porn but preferred not to have hair. In the years since I sometimes shave, sometimes don't.

It'll be one of those threads where women are told they should choose what to do with their body as long as it's the right choice and all women who shave and wax are so stupid that they can't make their own choices without being coerced.

Do what you want with yours, but stop with all the 'it's more hygienic' crap. It's not, you're more likely to get ingrown hairs, cysts and infections. How can removal be more hygienic if it threatens your health?

HoustonBess but that's not the case for everyone. I have never got ingrown hairs or cysts.

Also, now, I only use clippers to trim mine down. It's there, just not big or bushy. And yes when I met it get too long it feels sweaty and uncomfortable when I am at the gym.

Bertrand et al

No no it was perfectly amicable! I was sort of nervously babbling as they got the numbing injection ready and said something about how I hadn't had time to shave and tbh I never did, and then they distracted me very kindly by talking about shaving habits of patients over time and how unusual mine was.

They were both older ladies one of whom also didn't shave.

He told me i should shave it and he actually got a razor and shaved it for me

See this is what I object to. Women can choose whether they want hair or not but men expect it shaved now and that's what I don't like. I shaved once (for someone else!) and I hated it. It just didn't look or feel right so I've never done it again. The last guy I started seeing kept asking me to shave and I just said no. We broke up for other reasons but it is one of the reasons I'm just not interested in any more relationships. Things like wanting me to shave, wanting anal, wanting to cum on my face etc have more or less killed my sex drive! And yes, I do believe all these expectations have come from porn. I'm nearly 50 and in my younger days a guy would never even have suggested any of those things. Now they expect it.

I don't obsess over what any other women choose to do with their public hair and would be surprised if anyone cares what I do with mine

That makes sense now, Johnny.

You started the conversation and they helped you feel at ease.

Everyone should have their pubic hair how they want it.

I shave mine every two days so I’m completely hair free there all the time. Keeping on top of it is effortless and painless; takes two minutes tops.

I’m not going to be pressured or encouraged to grow a full bush that I think is unattractive, feels unclean and gets in the way just because that’s your preference, OP.

If you think grown women look like children because of their lack of public hair I think you have a very warped view of the world and a dodgy mind.

• I’m not going to be pressured or encouraged to grow a full bush that I think is unattractive, feels unclean and gets in the way just because that’s your preference, OP.

If you think grown women look like children because of their lack of public hair I think you have a very warped view of the world and a dodgy mind.*

This!!!!

Genuine q - do those of you who go natural full on Bush really just let it hang out when you're on holiday in a swimsuit or at the gym in the pool? Or do you wear swimwear that hides it?