to think that Labour's stance on moped ramming is stupid

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The Metropolitan Police have been knocking over moped muggers with their cars, and releasing the footage as a deterrent. It's a fantastic idea which has cut moped crime dramatically.

Predictably, the Shadow Home Secretary has said 'it shouldn't be legal for anyone'.

Why is Labour's instinct always to side with the scumbag criminals over the victims, the police and the decent people?

easyandy101 How come so many of you have had experience with dealing with police ?

I just look the type

TwistedStitch By a few liberal do gooders on here, just ask them politely to stop, and say never mind if they don’t, there’s always next time

easyandy101 Always out looking for trouble ?

It won’t affect sentencing if they are injured during a collision

Man sustains serious brain injury due to police knocking him off a moped. Man wakes up from coma and has lost his memory, doesn’t even know his own name and has forgotten how to walk , no memory of his crime etc.

You really think that ^ wouldnt affect sentacing?

Lefty SJWs might be happy with muggers and other criminals being able to operate with impunity, but the general public aren't, that's why this move is being applauded

The general public would support the death penalty, amputation etc

Harsh and cruel sentences do not reduce crime at all, as the USA experience shows.
We ve already sky high prison populations and equally hi re offending rates.
Unless the causes are addressed, then crime will just escalate, regardless of what the sentence are.

btw i lived in these sorts of societies and anyone that can lives behind gated & armed communities, despite extremely harsh sentences, it really doesn't work and ignores decades of research into the criminal mind.

ChaseOnTheCase It’s seems with the softly, softly approach, London is well on the way already

fission FFS, it was perfectly clear that I was replying to a poster who talked about an offender having a broken leg or similar. Stop trying to be so awkward.

TwistedStitch By a few liberal do gooders on here, just ask them politely to stop

Yep. I'm by no means a blind supporter of the police but this is a tactic that actually appears to be working and keeping the public safer with the only risk being towards those who have chosen to hurt others.

FissionChips That sounds like a good way of getting them back on right path, if they have forgotten their criminal past

It's because the police are being starved of funding at the same time community groups and other resources used to prevent criminalised behaviour are being decimated too.

Causes of crime are of cause multifaceted, including Government social policies and austerity, trying to political point score on this is a little ignorant of why this tactic is lawful and not a slippery slope of Police randomly taking out 16/17 yr olds on mopeds because they happen to be driving around.

FFS, it was perfectly clear that I was replying to a poster who talked about an offender having a broken leg or similar. Stop trying to be so awkward

But you said :
It won’t affect sentencing if they are injured during a collision

easyandy101 Always out looking for trouble ?

No I literally am just dodgy looking

I've been stop and searched well in excess of 50 times, started when I was about 14, carried on well into my 30s

Justanotherlurker It is not randomly is it

Harsh and cruel sentences do not reduce crime at all, as the USA experience shows

This isn't a sentence, it's a harm reduction tactic and it IS reducing crime.

That sounds like a good way of getting them back on right path, if they have forgotten their criminal past

Your ignorance is quite supernatural Hesta.

easyandy101 You must be dodgy looking or acting very suspicious

Causes of crime are of cause multifaceted, including Government social policies and austerity, trying to political point score on this is a little ignorant of why this tactic is lawful and not a slippery slope of Police randomly taking out 16/17 yr olds on mopeds because they happen to be driving around.

That’s a brilliant post. Totally agree.

fission I will clarify my comment as you appear to be struggling badly. A broken bone won’t affect sentencing. Severe brain damage will affect sentencing.

Happy now.

I would still like to know what those who oppose this tactic think the police should do to stop a violent offender on a moped who poses an immediate risk to the public.

Yeah if going on the tube at rush hour is suspicious, or looking a bit Eastern European is dodgy looking you are absolutely correct

FissionChips And your compassion for the scumbags is terrible, are you or your family involved in this type of activity?

By a few liberal do gooders on here, just ask them politely to stop

Exactly this. If someone mugs you you have to remember it's because they're less privaliged, so you must not only offer them your stuff but take them to the cash point and withdraw as much money for them as possible, even if it takes you overdrawn. Afterwards thank them for their time.

Happy now

Yup

I just watched a compilation video of offences caught on camera by moped offenders. Holy shit, it was to be tackled and this is just one valid method of doing so.

TwistedStitch They want come back with anything, the criminals just need a bit of a cuddle or an arm around their shoulder, never mind about the poor victims