To stop sending my child to nursery cause they allow him outside

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here me out, I hope I'm not being PFB but I am so fed up with my child's nursery. Time and time again I've said he is not to be outside, but nobody listens! Each day he comes home caked in mud, all up his back, caked on his shoes, not wearing any gloves or a hat, some times not even wearing his wellies just his indoor shoes! Its Baltic. On Friday I went to collect him and they said he was outside making hot chocolate... with the mud he was rolling around like a pig in shit but he was covered from head to toe, in his hair, his ears, his back from when another kid through a mudball at him I don't know whether I'm overreacting though? Aibu!!

They weren't happy he was wearing his wellies inside

I'd be sending him every day in wellies if they keep refusing to change him into proper outdoor shoes when he goes out. And tell them why.

(apart from the written complaints, etc)

How do you know he is unsupervised OP?

The OP said it somewhere in the thread. You know, the one people should read...

Will people please stop using "RTFT" as a way of saying "shut up if you don’t agree with me."

If you had RTFT, you'd understand that people saying RTFT aren't trying to shut down people who disagree.

Not read all the thread but really?!
Oh noes, child gets muddy when playing shocker!
FFS lol. Get him wrapped up in a warm coat and it's all part and parcel of yanno, being a child!

CANCEL THE CHEQUE

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I asked before why he's outside alone "oh he loves it, it allows us to have other 1-1 time with other children" "he is so well behaved he doesn't need a teacher out there"

Yeah, as if you'd just carry on letting him go there if the nursery let a 2 year old out on his own to play whilst they ignored him and concentrated on the others. THAT'S your problem if so, not the fact that it's cold and he gets muddy!

CANCEL THE CHEQUE

Soz, should have known there'd be a mahoosive dripfeed of blah in the middle and it's not really about little Johnny getting muddy at all lol.

Orlande

It's really bizarre that you are focusing on muddy wellies and not on such a serious safeguarding failure. Yourtwo year oldchild is being left completely unsupervised

Yes, speak to the manager, complain to the regulator, and remove your child!

I agree with the above, I ordinarily answered to your wellies issue and thought it was rediculous but this is safeguarding absolutely.
I would not be taking my child there, it needs reporting..... Why didn't you base this as your issue

Answered to soon and before spell check!
Why didn't you base this as your main issue at first instead of showing a picture of barely muddy wellies!

YABU to stop sending your child to nursery cause they allow him outside (your actual AIBU question)

YANBU to stop sending your child to nursery because they allow him outside unaccompanied (what you should be focussing on).

Is it actually Baltic though? Do you live in one of the Baltic countries?

misses point

No need to nit pick fruitcuider. It's an expression I get cold hands just putting the bins out! Its so foggy and cold to be going out at 10am!

Outdoor play is vital. so is mud. There are countries (Finland I think) who have totally outdoor nurseries and schools. Babies also should take naps in prams outside. Much healthier

He does need a teacher outside with the children

Great that other nurseries allow them to be outside but I bet they are appropriately dressed ffs

@FruitCider it's a commonly used Scottish expression. It means 'very cold' hth.

So, what are you going to do about the situation, OP?

I highly doubt your child is left outside alone without supervision :s you’re obviously dramatising this

I think some posters have to be trolling- no one surely can be coming onto the thread saying, oh outdoors play, how lovely, just send him in with warm clothing to change into

Sounds like he's having a brilliant time. I'd be thrilled if my kids nursery did this. We're far too protective of kids now, a bit of mud never hurt anybody - in fact there is plenty of research showing that soil bacteria helps children's immune systems to calibrate and learn appropriate responses to infection

I think some posters have to be trolling- no one surely can be coming onto the thread saying, oh outdoors play, how lovely, just send him in with warm clothing to change into

Maybe some are like me and didn't see at first the big dripfeed in the middle where it wasn't just about muddy wellies and being chilly, and the more serious case of being left to play outside by himself at the age of 2 whilst the carers sit around inside with the other kids and leaving him to his own devices?
Such a strange thing of OP to fixate on - the fact it's cold and his boots are muddy! Surely you'd care more that they weren't supervising your toddler properly? I would,anyway!

I think the idea about a visual poster showing what they should be wearing outside (that changes depending on the time of year) is really good. If you suggested that would the nursery take it on board?

I don't like the thought of a 2 year old outside when it's that cold without proper clothing :(

They need to make sure he has his warm clothes on.

Would you be happy if he was supervised properly and dressed appropriately? There are some good ideas in this thread, if you draft an email focussing on the changes you'd like made then send it off that's a good start, or maybe a face to face meeting. I'm concerned it will just get colder and colder. I reckon no one wants to stand outside so they watch him through the window.

I also don't believe all children would be able to say if they were too cold, or would come inside if they were. The nursery is making a lot of assumptions if they think that.

Is that a picture of a muddy wellie op??? Surely wellies are supposed to get muddy - it is their purpose in life! YANBU op

What's wrong with kids having fun? What a funspoiler!!! Fun police alert!!!

The boy is happy, safe and settled. There is no evidence that he is "unsupervised" in terms of how a care inspector would judge the situation.

I sympathise with the mum, but I honestly cannot work out from her own conflicting posts whether or not a warm coat has been used or even available. Either way, the boy does not appear to have contracted pneumonia or even much in the way of lesser ailments. As a recent contributor says, Young children do know when they are cold: it is patronising and ignorant to perpetuate the myth that they are too stupid to know.

He is building up resistance to illness. Probably far more than the children who are indoors doing potato prints and sharing their bugs in a germ-friendly, centrally heated haven for infections. IME, and in the opinion of medical professionals, 2yo's who enjoy lots of outdoor play get I’ll far less than those delicate flowers for whom "outdoors" is the ten metre walk from Tesco’s front door to the family parking spaces.

He is learning by playing outside, no matter how repetitively, with things that hold such a fascination to him even though, to us, it’s only mud. Early Years education practitioners refer to this as learning by 'schema'. This ia much better way of learning than the host of so-called "educational activities" most nurseries dream up to pass the time and thereby check off those endless but ever-changing DofE tick lists.