To stop sending my child to nursery cause they allow him outside

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here me out, I hope I'm not being PFB but I am so fed up with my child's nursery. Time and time again I've said he is not to be outside, but nobody listens! Each day he comes home caked in mud, all up his back, caked on his shoes, not wearing any gloves or a hat, some times not even wearing his wellies just his indoor shoes! Its Baltic. On Friday I went to collect him and they said he was outside making hot chocolate... with the mud he was rolling around like a pig in shit but he was covered from head to toe, in his hair, his ears, his back from when another kid through a mudball at him I don't know whether I'm overreacting though? Aibu!!

I don't actually think there is a dripfeed. The level of neglect is evident from the opening post.

"Each day he comes home caked in mud, all up his back, caked on his shoes, not wearing any gloves or a hat, some times not even wearing his wellies just his indoor shoes!"

"but he was covered from head to toe, in his hair, his ears, his back from when another kid through a mudball at him"

What is also evident from the Op is a poster questioning her reaction because she can't believe she is doing the "right" thing sending her DC to a registered and they are getting it so spectacularly wrong.

I cant work out whether some people are posting as a joke, or if they genuinely havent read the whole thing.

OP, if i was you, i would ring up the Care Inspectorate and ASK them what you should do. It isn't acceptable that he is unsupervised at his age. Don't mention the mud. Keep us posted, please.

Playing in mud is good for his immune system. Seriously. By all means insist on a hat and coat, but please let him do as he pleases at school. It sounds like you are not the most mud-friendly mum, so just be happy for him that he has a place to get dirty that isn't your house and where you don't have to get dirty with him.

When I said goodbye to my kids a the nursery door, the last thing I always said to them was "Have fun, play hard, get dirty." I read that phrase in a book and I thought it was excellent advice. My 17 year old still comes home muddy (from cycling to school) and it still pleases me to see this evidence of him living in the physical world. Relax -- the mud will come out in the wash.

Send him with an all in one instead of a coat. Get him some good waterproof shoes. You can get them in decathlon for under £10 so you can provide a spare. I find it very hard to believe he’s always the only one out but I’m sure, like the other children if he was cold or unhappy he’d go in. Sounds like he’s absolutely having a ball and this is the exact sort of nursery I’d choose to send my child to for allowing this to happen!

Op you saw an unsupervised child outside ? Are you sure ? Where you there long enough to see what was actually happening?
If the children are being taken out unsupervised and without appropriate clothing for the weather. Then I would report this. My dds nursery always emails the parents to make sure all the children have warm jackets hats and gloves on when it’s cold as all children have to go out for fresh air.

You are definitely being unreasonable. He’s a child - let him be.
Perhaps he craves it so much at nursery because you don’t do it at home.

Get him a waterproof all in one and insist the nursery ensures he wears it when doing mucky outside play. Your DS will want to go out when he sees the others having fun.
YABU.

REEEEEEAD THEEEEEE THREEEEEEEEEAD please.

Hiding this now as I have reached my 'Buy him a waterproof suit!' limit for the decade day.

Beat of luck to you, op.

YABU

My kids come out of nursery/school/playgroup/plays scheme/ time with babysitters, family or friends COVERED in all kinds of crap.

Baked bean juice, ketchup, chocolate, mud, paint, nappy cream, Vaseline, shampoo, bubble liquid, felt tip pen etc. You name it my kids come home covered in it.

I just wash their shoes/clothes/faces/bodies and get over it

Life is short. Let the kid roll in mud.

I am the complete opposite to you op.

My child loves being outside and I am gutted for him when it’s reeeeeallly raining as it means he isn’t allowed outside at daycare.

In my opinion, there is no such thing as bad weather only bad clothing, so it might be wise to speak to keycarers of your child to reiterate the importance of keeping him wrapped up.

Re the mud, there isn’t really very much that you can do about that. It will be pass ( I doubt he’ll be doing it at aged 36) but the benefits of playing outside, and in particular with mud, far far outweigh the mere fact that you don’t like him going outside and getting muddy.

Please please let your child be a child op.

YABVU

Your DS will want to go out when he sees the others having fun.

This is by far the funniest comment of the entire thread!

Genius.

Look for outdoor clothing which is easy to put on and take off.Being indoors and clean is not part of being a toddler.He sounds like he has great fun lots of resilience and a good imagination so be proud

How absolutely wonderful - a nursery which allows children to play outside and be children. An ABSOLUTELY ESSENTIAL part of childhood. They should help the children to put their own coats, hats, gloves, wellies on, if required

Sounds pretty standard to me! Sounds like he’s having a great time.

I would personally be unhappy if my son DIDNT come home caked in mud/food/paint/glitter. Sensory exploration and free play with as few boundaries as safety allows is great for child development. Even if it is a ball ache to clean at the end of the day. I don’t want my son becoming anxious if he’s grubby, I’d rather he feel comfortable experimenting and kids really like to get stuck in. Also if he’s the only one inside YABU to ask a member of raff to stay in with him.

Can I ask, who else here would continue to send their SN 2 year old to a nursery who said this: I asked before why he's outside alone "oh he loves it, it allows us to have other 1-1 time with other children" "he is so well behaved he doesn't need a teacher out there"

None of you, because it wouldn't happen 🤔

I'd be upset had they not let them play outside. Send him prepared with appropriate clothes and ask them to make sure hes got them on when playing outside.

A waterproof onesie and wellies are good. You can rinse the waterproof onesie outside in warm water and then wring out. Drys overnight somewhere warm. Use old toothbrush to clean boots. Then bath the kid. Sorted. It's all part of being a kid. They do grow out of the worst eventually. My eldest ones are now fairly clean out (4 plus).

YABVU. Children need to play outside and get muddy.

I can't be arsed to make any more comments about the 2 actual points that matter.

A 2 year old outside on their own and not being helped into the appropriate clothes provided for them, and then not made dry and comfortable before home time Is very bad practice in an early years setting.

However, this As a recent contributor says, Young children do know when they are cold: it is patronising and ignorant to perpetuate the myth that they are too stupid to know. honestly lots of kids struggle to know when they are too hot or cold, especially when they are 2!

Sorry just read some of the thread. If he is unsupervised is not right.

Oh god. Please let your child play outside in the mud! Send him in old clothes and let him enjoy himself. Kids really don't feel the cold as much as adults and this kind of play is vital for development.

This thread is great for showing up the fucking lazy arses who can't be bothered to read even the original posters posts!

Complain in writing O8, if the staff truly believe that it's fabulous that your young child is outside so other children can get 1to1 care then there are serious training issues going on here!

I witnessed it for long enough as I was waiting for somebody in a nearby house. 7 minutes I was stood outside, while this child was wondering about alone.
Like I said they have been watching from the window I couldn't see that far but there was nobody else in the playground part.
Itsaboojum I have already said he always has a thick jacket EXCEPT for the days I can't get them washed and dried THEN he goes in wearing a hoody that is not inconsistent posting at all

Ah reminds me of an old Who song from the Sixites;)

"I want to play cricket on the green
Ride my bike across the street
Cut myself and see my blood
I want to come home all covered in mud"

Yay!