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To stop sending my child to nursery cause they allow him outside

646 replies

O8O818 · 25/11/2018 06:58

Blush here me out, I hope I'm not being PFB but I am so fed up with my child's nursery. Time and time again I've said he is not to be outside, but nobody listens! Each day he comes home caked in mud, all up his back, caked on his shoes, not wearing any gloves or a hat, some times not even wearing his wellies just his indoor shoes! Its Baltic. On Friday I went to collect him and they said he was outside making hot chocolate... with the mud Confused he was rolling around like a pig in shit Grin but he was covered from head to toe, in his hair, his ears, his back from when another kid through a mudball at him Hmm I don't know whether I'm overreacting though? Aibu!!

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Sb74 · 27/11/2018 09:56

But it’s not real life is it? That’s the point. I very much doubt the majority of what is said on here would be said in real life to people’s faces. And in real life you wouldn’t have to listen to 50 people’s views and get slagged off if you missed something in the conversation because people aren’t so damn rude in real life. This whole thing is very far removed from real-life interactions. And that brings both pros and cons.

Lweji · 27/11/2018 10:14

OP, good luck with the meeting.
If you haven't sent them a written letter or email, make sure to have a bullet point list of the key issues so that you don't get derailed by them.
And give them a written list of expectations and action points that you both sign and copy.

And the irony of all this is the ones actually derailing the thread are the ones moaning that others are derailing the thread!! Ha ha!

You should REALLY RTFT. That ship had already sailed and sunk.

PhilomenaButterfly · 27/11/2018 10:28

When he goes to school he'll be outside every day. It's part of the curriculum. Does he have a medical condition where he shouldn't get cold and wet?

Sb74 · 27/11/2018 10:33

Lweji- give it a rest will you. I’ll do what suits me thank you.

PhilomenaButterfly · 27/11/2018 10:49

Tomb yes, well, school shouldn't call social services when I can't get the stains out and can't afford a new pack of shirts every 3 fucking days then. Hmm

IceRebel · 27/11/2018 10:53

yes, well, school shouldn't call social services when I can't get the stains out and can't afford a new pack of shirts every 3 fucking days then.

That wouldn't happen Hmm Perhaps if the stained shirts were also combined with a consistently unwashed and unfed child it might be mentioned as another sign of neglect, but stained shirts on their own would not warrant a call to social services.

PhilomenaButterfly · 27/11/2018 10:57

OP DS2 used to come filthy out of preschool, that's not the issue. DS2 was wearing his coat and wellies, and supervised at all times. He also regularly used to come out covered in yoghurt and paint. I mean covered. He was a bit overzealous! 😂

PhilomenaButterfly · 27/11/2018 10:57

It did to me Ice.

viques · 27/11/2018 11:03

Sounds like a great nursery, encouraging creative play, outside activities, allowing children to get mucky, not being precious about active play. By all means try to tell them to keep him indoors, but be prepared to cope with a resentful bored child with masses of unused pent up energy when you pick him up at home time!

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dinosaurglitterrepublic · 27/11/2018 11:12

I suppose it should come as no surprise that strangers anonymously post ill considered advice on the internet. Those who expect better are obviously naively optimistic.

O8O818 · 27/11/2018 11:36

Believe me he still has plenty of energy, he is supposed to use a chair at home but hates it because he just wants to be on the go constantly! Nothing will tire him Grin again great for you that your child plays outside, yours is wrapped up well. Mine isn't always. That's my point!
Allowing a child to be so caked in mud that there's even mud in the bath is not a great nursery Hmm

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O8O818 · 27/11/2018 11:39

And for those saying it's not that cold or not cold enough to warrant the use of baltic, the puddles of rain have frozen over. That to me would scream that children need to be wrapped up warm, especially somebody as my son who is delayed. And for those saying my son being outside means he doesn't get unwell are also wrong. We deal with a cold a month which sets my son back further.

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GardeningWithDynamite · 27/11/2018 12:32

OP - good luck with the meeting. If you've lost confidence in the nursery (and I wouldn't blame you) it's probably best to look for a childminder, at least in the short term until he can go to preschool.

I believe that most people don't start threads unless there's an issue - sometimes it takes a couple of posts to clarify exactly what it is, but I'm always wary about piling on and calling someone unreasonable just because I've taken the first post or title at face value.

halfwitpicker · 27/11/2018 12:37

Lower than minus 10 over here and they stay indoors. Above that and they're booted outdoors. Rosy cheeks, knackered, filthy =12 hours sleep

PhilomenaButterfly · 27/11/2018 12:39

Yes, but I bet they're dressed appropriately halfwit.

Mrscog · 27/11/2018 12:43

I'd just buy a cheap 2nd hand coat which is his 'muddy' coat and wash it once a week at weekends. Simple.

sleepylittlebunnies · 27/11/2018 16:57

I agree with you OP it is lovely that he gets to play outside but it is the nursery’s responsibility to make sure he is appropriately dressed. If they allow free play of going in and out then there needs to be a member of staff outside even if there’s only one child out there.

I’d send him in cheap tracky bottoms and layers and insist in writing that he has his all in one puddle suit and wellies on outside at all times. Send him in wellies only and slippers for indoors. The nursery sounds quite neglectful tbh.

FruitCider · 27/11/2018 21:22

don't nit pick, it's baltic

Posting from Latvia tonight and unless you are in the sticks in the north on a farm enjoying -7 and snow with me I can absolutely assure you that unless you are further north eg Finland it's not "Baltic". In my home city it's a very mild 7 degrees.

FruitCider · 27/11/2018 21:23

And for those saying it's not that cold or not cold enough to warrant the use of baltic

🙄

MissRja · 27/11/2018 22:18

Yabu. Nurseries arent allowed to keep children indoors- all children have the right to play outdoors. Likewise, they cannot stop your child exploring and learning through play, even if that means he gets messy everyday. Ask them to put his outdoor clothes on and work with them! Your child will be benefitting and learning soo much from being outdoors and exploring like that x

helpingvsdoinghomework · 27/11/2018 22:23

Sounds totally perfect and exactly what children should be doing. I commend your Nursery.

Who cares about mud???

Willow2017 · 27/11/2018 23:01

600 posts and still people are missing the problem!

Despite numerous repeated explanations by op.

The issue isnt him.going outside.
Its him going outside without appropriate clothing and unsupervised.
In no universe is leaving a 2yr old playing outside in November in plimsoles and indoor clothes, rolling around in mud, unsupervised "great".

Ffs!

WaitroseCoffeeCostaCup · 27/11/2018 23:16

Because when I pick him up he is outside? With no gloves, hat or scarfs on?
I check his bag for news letters, everything in his bag including spare clothes and shoes are unworn
I asked before why he's outside alone "oh he loves it, it allows us to have other 1-1 time with other children" "he is so well behaved he doesn't need a teacher out there" "He's the only one out there, tinkly laugh the others found it too cold" have been their responses

You are CRAZY taking him to this place after they told you the above. Genuinely insane.

O8O818 · 28/11/2018 06:05

How bloody wonderful fruitcuider. I can't complain it's cold because other countries have it colder? Give me a bloody break ffs.
I didn't even think my son would survive the year so yes I think I'm entitled to decide if it's too cold for him to be playing outside.
Personally idgaf if another country has it colder My son who is delayed who needs a mobility chair sometimes does need wrapping up in cotton wool.
Next you'll be on those threads come summer saying don't complain it's hot because Jamaica is hotterHmm seriously knock it off.

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