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Morning drinking

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nottellingyou101 · 24/11/2018 15:03

I'm curious to know thoughts on this. I'm completely okay with it but interested to see what people think.

Once and sometimes twice a week at 10am I will crack open a bottle of wine and have 2 or 3 glasses over a few hours. I'll Read, catch up on some tv and other stuff and just relax and enjoy.

I do this because this is the only time I get to myself while the kids are in school and before everyone gets home around 4. I don't drink in the evening or at the weekends. Probably having around 16 units a week.

I know if I was to tell anyone this they'd think I had a problem and needed a drink first thing in the morning, but I don't.It's about 4 or 5 days before I'll have a glass of wine again since the last one.

What are you're thoughts?

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billiby · 26/11/2018 19:42

What happens to your paintings OP? You must have loads, do you sell them?

Serious question, I'm so bored with posters counting units.

Loopytiles · 26/11/2018 19:44

POsters are speculating about units because OP has been repeatedly, deliberately vague about her weekly alcohol intake.

serialtester · 26/11/2018 19:46

Unit counting is a distraction. If you're timetabling sessions with a substance then it's a sign that you need to stop. I've been there. OP - I hope you realise this one day. It's amazing being free.

Bluntness100 · 26/11/2018 19:46

Op, how many bottles of wine do you drink honestly on average per week?

CurlyhairedAssassin · 26/11/2018 19:47

I asked that question ages ago and Op didn’t answer it.

Tiredemma · 26/11/2018 19:49

This reminds me of my Mum.

She died last year aged 57 due to multiple organ failure caused by malnutrition.

I remember her drinking from 10am "just a couple of glasses........."

VerbeenaBeeks · 26/11/2018 19:56

All I can say is that if you're trying to control the substance it's actually controlling you.

True, that.

VerbeenaBeeks · 26/11/2018 19:58

Op, how many bottles of wine do you drink honestly on average per week?

I asked this too. I don't think it's been answered though.

This reminds me of my Mum.She died last year aged 57 due to multiple organ failure caused by malnutrition. I remember her drinking from 10am "just a couple of glasses........."

Sad Flowers

TrippingTheVelvet · 26/11/2018 20:20

Me too MonkeyNuts. This could easily have been written by my DDad twenty years ago. He died last year from alcohol poisoning.

VerbeenaBeeks · 26/11/2018 20:22

I have most weeks 6 glasses spread across different days

6 glasses, according to you and some of the thread, is 1 bottle of wine/slightly over as three glasses apparently only constitutes half a bottle or slightly more.
You said in your OP you drank 16 units. That's not a bottle of wine then, is it? That's more.
An approx of 16 units that you're admitting to is around 2 full bottles depending on your strength of wine.
If it sounds harsh, sorry, but it is.

Claw001 · 26/11/2018 20:33

An average bottle is 750ml. 175ml equals 4 and a bit glasses. OP has said she drinks 2/3, 175ml glasses twice a week and nothing else.

I don’t have a pub measuring cup, I just pour a glass. So I assume it’s an estimation!

As we are not there to measure her glasses! I think we have to take her word for it!! Otherwise, threads are a bit pointless if we just make it up Grin

madmum5811 · 26/11/2018 20:46

Count the bottles going into the recycling every week, might be an easier indicator. Or measure the wine into a measuring jug. But as others say some wines are stronger than others. Port is 20% and you can get seriously on that.

VerbeenaBeeks · 26/11/2018 20:49

750ml. Yes. Average size. Presuming it's average wine strength, one bottle of wine containing 9 units.If you're having 2 glasses in the morning and one for lunch a few days a week when they're at school, that's at least 16 that OP has admitted to.
I like my wine and am trying to cut down. She sounds like she needs to see and why would she have posted in the first place if she thought it was OK. Why post if you're not completely happy and have some inkling/level that it needs thinking about?

Hoopaloop · 26/11/2018 20:51

Who the chuff drinks port in anything but thimblefulls (apart from me on the train on way out lol)

singswithitsfingers · 26/11/2018 20:53

OP I would recommend the well established Thread brave babes battling the booze. They are ladies dealing with their relationship with alcohol and have seen it all before. They can help/advise.

RoboticSealpup · 26/11/2018 21:00

'A glass' is not a reliable measuring unit. Some wine glasses are so big they contain half a bottle.

Claw001 · 26/11/2018 21:00

Average 750 bottle. Average strength, what 12%? OP said 3 x 175ml, that’s over recommended units, however not over 2 bottles. 750 bottle would be 4 and bit glasses!

Guidelines are a bit vague, saying 13% wine is 2/3 units per 175! It would appear OP is roughly following guidelines!

Claw001 · 26/11/2018 21:05

I’ve never followed units or known how much I’ve poured! Unless I’m in a pub/restaurant!

My measures are ‘friendly’! I don’t drink that regularly and only at weekends. I’m not sure if this a safeguard after this thread! Maybe I should start measuring 😮

VerbeenaBeeks · 26/11/2018 21:08

OP I would recommend the well established Thread brave babes battling the booze

Been lurking that thread myself for ages but never actually posted. Yes, they're full of good stuff and in the same boat.
OP, even if you don't want to listen to this thread, go to the brave babes one. Depends if you want to moderate though,if you do, go to that one.If you do want to abstinate completely try the Dry thread one.

Janus · 26/11/2018 21:23

Just to also say that units should be spread out and if you are having 8 units a day x 2 days this is actually binge drinking. It says women shouldn’t have more than 6 units in one day.

MrHolmes · 26/11/2018 21:24

Geez Louise.

I'm bored of the unit counting too. I know I am having 7.5 units spread over each time.

I never counted my units until a recent doc, it didn't bother me, when I watched this interesting doc, that is when I started trying to stick to recommended units / being aware of what I drank.

I watched the doc about 2 months ago and I would say I would have been drinking 30 units a week at a guess. So I became more drink aware and have reduced it. The morning thing has been a recent thing for reasons I am not going into but I know I am drinking less, these reasons are not because O need a drink in the morning, so please just accept that.

I am sure if a lot of people added them up they might be shocked. I'm not minimising, justifying, I am just saying. If you don't care you'd probably not think about it, I think about it because I care, all I am doing is keeping track.

I will be berated more for this I'm sure. Everything I say will be berated. I'm sorry for counting and reducing my units.

Stop guessing and trying to work it out. Most weeks I drink at most 15/16 units and some weeks a bit more. e.g the time I go out 1x a month and I really don't care.

So people have asked me. How about you.

Do you keep track?

How many days do you drink?

How many units do you drink/do you know exactly?

If your an occasional drinker it doesn't count but maybe you are drinking more than you think.

Your turn.

I am not looking to justify my intake I am curious. I know people who drink 50 units a week, I don't drink 50 because they do, so it must be okay.

Cressida89 · 26/11/2018 21:35

I am actually a bit confused after all this.

I genuinely don't get what "healthy drinking" is now. I thought it was good to keep track of your units. But I get the feeling people think that's bad now?

Can someone explain? I'm genuinely baffled.

Is it only "healthy" if it's random - no set days, no planning involved?

Or is healthy drinking in fact just no drinking like I (seriously) suggested pages back. If this is the case(and I'm beginning to think it is), then it's all just shades of grey, and OP isn't really doing that much worse than anyone else who drinks.

What is healthy drinking?

madmum5811 · 26/11/2018 21:35

That unit per week thing has been proven to be flawed, was pulled out of a hat. OH and I use 125cl wine glasses at home to make sure we dont drink too much, we do not inflict these on friends. Our social wine glasses have to be washed by hand, too big for dishwasher.

If you are curious go find your normal glass fill it with water to your normal level, then tip it into a measuring jug.

Claw001 · 26/11/2018 21:43

I’m confused now too, is Mrholmes the OP?! Confused

nottellingyou101 · 26/11/2018 21:44

Mad mum Where and when did you here that. It used to be 20 units I think but then they did some thorough research and reduced it to 14.

Safe amount of alcohol is none but I'm not a monk.

Cressida This is what I've been saying. Just because I count them that shows I have a problem but I wonder how many people just pour the wine out of a bottle and box and have absolutely no idea.

Someone once said to me, but a box of wine, you don't know how much your drinking then.

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