To think that parents who don't vaccinate their children are despicable

[LaBelleSauvage]

Just that. And I think they ought to be sanctioned in some way similar to in Australia. Children shouldn't suffer because of parents' stupidity

I agree with you.

Shame certain people weren't vaccinated against being stupid.

YANBU, OP.

If someone opened a private nursery could they have a rule whereby they don’t take unvaccinated children? Would that amount to some form of discrimination?

They’d need to have an exemption for children who couldn’t be vaccinated for medical reasons, or it could amount to disability discrimination, but otherwise I doubt it would be a problem.

You can all carry on with your vicious comments about being stupid and ignorant but quite early on I realised it would be a waste of time defending myself which is why I didn't even bother to give my reasons.

Please give your reasons....I'm genuinely interested.

I'm also really interested in why you wouldn't vaccinate yourself if these illnesses suddenly became prevalent in the UK again?

Diphtheria can kill. Polio can leave you paralyzed. Wouldn't these things scare you?

Kat Von D is a thick as a brick anti-vaxxer so if you've ever bought from her makeup line you might want to switch to another brand from now on.

You're probably right. The reasons given by anti-vaxxers actually make them sound even more stupid and ignorant.
I've often wondered why people feel the information they gleaned from Google is with more than information given by immunologists.

I'd rather not because it'll just open up a whole new can of worms and I really can't be bothered with it

I'm sure we've heard them all before pinkyyy

Ok fine but if these illnesses suddenly reappeared, then please just answer this question...Wouldn't you be scared of catching them and them proving fatal or leaving you disabled?

DD1 has multiple potentially fatal allergies. She got her vaccines at the hospital and we had to stay for several hours afterwards in case of a bad reaction. It never occurred to me not to vaccinate her. Even now, she gets a different flu jab from most people because of the allergies she has. The potential for it to make her, at best, very ill or at worst killing her has not gone away. But for her own health (serious asthma on top of the allergies and now diagnosed as coeliac) she gets the flu jab. I do and will continue to condemn people who do not get their children vaccinated.

I'd rather not because it'll just open up a whole new can of worms and I really can't be bothered with it

If only the title of the thread was clear and you therefore didn’t have to bother 🙄

I wouldn't be scared no, my reasons are to do with my background and my culture. There are millions of ways to die every single day but I do t walk around in constant fear

I'm a scientist, I understand the risks and benefits of vaccination, I am generally pro vax and always have been - despite not being fully vaccinated myself due to severe allergic reactions.

I have also watched my DD go into cardiac arrest as a result of a bad reaction to a vaccination (she's adopted, so my own history was of no consequence), I sat by her bed in PICU while she fought for her life because of a decision I made. Had I had a child younger than my DD, I really don't think all the science in existence could have persuaded me to take that chance again (even knowing that the odds of the same thing happening would be infinitesimal).

I wouldn't be scared no, my reasons are to do with my background and my culture. There are millions of ways to die every single day but I do t walk around in constant fear

I bet you look when you cross the road though.

Yes, there's all sorts of ways to die but in general, we try to minimum these risks...

We drive carefully
We look when we cross the road
We install smoke alarms

Vaccines are another way to minimize risk

@trancepants I started reading your comment prepared to be angry as I can actually understand why someone who caught those illnesses and was fine would think vaccinations were a waste of time. I wish more people thought like you!

If you don't vaccinate you undermine herd immunity and put immunocompromised people like me at risk of death.
If you think I choose to be immunocompromised, you are a twat. If you put me at risk of death you are a twat.

@formerbabe With how connected the whole world is, there is a good chance of polio getting here again. Especially with vac rates dropping.
And not just polio. TB, whooping cough...
I still remember my shock when I came to UK, first world country, rich, educated and progressive, and found out there are regular measels outbreaks....

Yes there are many ways to die but we introduce ways of minimising those risks. Vaccinations are one way of minimising those risks.

You can all carry on with your vicious comments about being stupid and ignorant but quite early on I realised it would be a waste of time defending myself which is why I didn't even bother to give my reasons.

Are all your friends anti-vaxxers? If not, do they know your views on this subject?

For the postcode where I live, MMR uptake has dropped to less than 90%.

There have been over 100 cases of measles since March this year...

That’s a pretty terrifying stat

TheStoic I'm not an 'anti-vaxxer' I respect people's right to vaccinate and I choose not to do so myself. I don't feel the need to preach my beliefs, but majority of my friends are aware, yes

It's not a personal choice. Why do people think it is?

My DD has had all the important vaccinations but I no longer get her the annual Flu nasal spray. She had it 3 years and got very ill each time (about 3/4 days after) - flu like symptoms that lasted 2/3 weeks, unable to get out of bed for at least a week and taking a good 4 weeks to be back to her old self again. Also missing 2 weeks of school each time. Losing enough weight she drops into the underweight category (she’s normally atound the 5th centile so 3 weeks of not eating much is enough to drop her off the chart).

I can accept it was a coincidence once or maybe twice but after the third time I know that it was the vaccine making her sick. She’s not had it the last 2 years and has been fine. A few minor colds but nothing like how ill she was with the vaccine.

Should we also be stuck on an island somewhere because I don’t want my DD to get ill every year?

@bellinisurge

That's exactly what it is.

All of you attacking pinkyyy and others for their choices, claiming intellectual superiority while resorting to name calling is what I find despicable