can't afford to prep for brexit

[paintinmyhairAgain]

wrong board but the preppers will probably flame me, as you will might for mentioning it on here .
i was wondering if things goes toes up and there are food shortages, what happens with people who can't afford to -hoard- store up goods i.e the elderly and people on very tight budgets already living hand to mouth relying on food banks ?
any thoughts ?

Btw I’m stockpilling too.
Because of people’s reactions when there was a bit of snow. If there is ANY potential issue, can you imagine how it will be like?

Plus prices are going to go up.

And I’m only buying things I know I will use, so they be eaten at some point. I’m just buying much more ahead of myself iyswim.

But more importantly, I’d rather avoid to take the risk of my dcs been hungry.

Not trying to scaremonger, but can we be sure there won’t be power outages for whatever reason? This whole thing is so complicated, you can practically expect the unexpected. If that were the case, there isn’t much point stockpiling frozen foods. Dried and tinned more practical (and easier to hide should that be necessary). Maybe a bit of foraging for fresh stuff as the spring progresses? Dandelion leaves are are a source of vitamin C I believe…

How did it ever get this crazy? I blame certain idiot politicians for allowing the vote in the first place.

The answer to your question OP is that they'll be fucked and the Tories won't give a shit.

The posts dismissing OP’s concerns are ridiculous. If we leave with no deal there will be serious delays at customs, which will restrict food and other imports until some sort of agreement is reached. That will probably happen fairly quickly because the government will be under enormous pressure as soon as the consequences become clear. But for that month or two, the food supply will be radically reduced. Now that doesn’t mean there won’t be enough food to go round if there is equitable distribution. We’re a rich country, we produce some of our own food, suppliers are stock piling as far as they can. But shortages will mean restricted supply and increased prices. People on limited incomes and without the ability to shop around by travelling and spending time might struggle to get sufficient food. That’s not project fear, that is by far the most likely scenario if there is no deal.

Incidentally the same thing will happen with medicine, but then there will be little individuals can do as it will be managed through the healthcare system. And they won’t care whether you voted leave and shouted project fear. If the drugs aren’t there for you or your family, they aren’t there. So you might not give a shit about the poor and vulnerable, but maybe take an interest in the possibility you or your loved ones will be the ones who don’t get the medicine they need.

@sandinyoushoes electricity supply issues are possible in Northern Ireland but unlikely elsewhere unless there are serious peaks in demand.

Please , @paintinmyhairAgain , there's very little politics on the Prepper topic. Common sense practical advice is what most posters on there offer. Me included.
No one judges anyone for being short of cash.
I'll happily hammer at Leave posters and No Deal posters in particular on Brexit and AIBU threads but not on the Prepper topic. It's assumed you are there because you are looking for tips. No one cares too much how you voted. Piss takers come and go on there too but they are generally ignored.
Please, op, ask for advice on there.

Power cuts are more likely during Jan/Feb when it gets really cold, this winter is going to be a bad one

I think a lot if people don't believe that the Government would willingly allow harm to come to us, because they haven't seen it with their own eyes.

If you've been on the waiting list for months or years for crucial, life saving surgery, or watched a relative die or come to some harm on some of those waiting lists, or if you have lost your home or barely eaten for days due to waiting for benefits to be processed, you will know that they can, and they will, watch citizens of the UK suffer and die for their Tory ideology.

I am worried about what will happen if we leave.

Op, don't get hung up on power cuts etc. In the unlikely event that happens with Brexit, there will be great advice on the radio about how to deal - have a radio. A cheapo one. Find out your local stations and scribble them down. And have a torch - a cheapo windup one. Get someone to buy you ones for Christmas if you don't have them.
Everyone should do this anyway, Brexit or no.

I voted remain and would still do so but on the subject of buying from abroad, if, for example, the Spanish growers can't sell their produce to the UK what will they do with it? Remember importing also benefits the seller, they are unlikely to allow their livelihood to be ruined because of Brexit. Hopefully in the future no government will be stupid enough to have a referendum on a single issue.

Power cuts are more likely during Jan/Feb when it gets really cold, this winter is going to be a bad one.

The country will have the same status in January and February that it has now.

I would ask you why you thought that somehow our status would magically change before we even left. But I won't because we both know it's because you're a massive fucking scaremongering list

You realise the UK has massive multiple huge power stations don't you? If course you do, you're just relying on the fact that other people don't, so they'll believe your bullshit.

Everyone should do this anyway, Brexit or no.

This ^^

Surely it's a good idea to have plenty of food and drink in stock anyway? Even for less dramatic events like you becoming ill - you are not going to want to drag yourself down to the shops for essentials, so it makes sense to keep extras at home.
I am slowly stockpiling, just because it is prudent measure, not necessarily because of brexit although, for what it's worth, I think there MAY be delays at ports come March 2019, which will have a knock on effect on stocks and prices

The weather doesn't cause food shortages, it's people dramatic behaviour that does that. Stockpiling won't cost a fortune, not if you buy a few extra tins of food a week. People seem to take food availablily for granted these days and bad weather proves that when people panic buy because they haven't got enough food to last them the weekend. Panic buying shouldn't even exist if people were more prepared. Everyone should have an emergency selection of tinned food in their cupboards, enough to keep them going for a couple of weeks. What happens if any of you are ill or you car breaks down and you can't get to the shops for a few days. As for elderly neighbors, if you have someone near you that will struggle to get out, get them a few bits when you do. What happens when you have a power cut and you have an electric cooker? Don't answer with take out because if you have bad weather then the delivery driver might not be able to get to you. God help some people if we had rationing in place.

Having massive multiple huge power stations isn’t a guarantee of energy supply FFS. Only someone who has no idea of the energy needs and supply networks of the different parts of the UK would say something so stupid. Probably part of the government’s negotiating team.

What's a scaremongering list, gingerrogered?

There are plenty of reasons why people don't put extra food to one side or why they don't prep. Money shouldn't be one of them and anyone who wants to do it but is on a tight budget should head over to the Prepper topic for advice and ideas.
If people want to post about why they think prepping in any way for Brexit is
Project Fear/unpatriotic/scaremongering/ nuts/whatever, go ahead and do that. Anyone who wants to get some sensible tips which they can follow or ignore as is their personal choice should head over to the Prepper topic.

I have a space issue rather than a funds issue. Where is all this stuff supposed to go?

bellinisurge what reasons are there that people don't prep as I personally think everyone should to a point. Everyone should have at least a couple of weeks supply of tinned food, rice, pasta and long life milk. I fail to understand why people don't do this (unless they're already using food banks as that makes things very difficult)

@RebelWitchFace - join the club on space.
The Prepper answer is under beds, top of wardrobes, that kind of thing. Evidence you only get stuff for 3 days, it's better than nothing.
Learn some extra skills like baking bread. Or some new recipes if you or a family member likes to cook. That takes up no space.

@bellinisurge one bed flat,two grownups a 6 yo a cat and two hamsters. I already have no idea how I fit everything in. As long as the hob works I'm good though, I can live for weeks on pasta and some form of potato.

@catx1606 - why do people not prep? Judging by some of the comments I've seen on MN, some people see it as Remainer defeatism. Some people think that prepping means we all expect a zombie apocalypse or The Rapture (google it if you need a laugh)
Some people can't be arsed.
Prepping is just a buzzword like "life hack" or "upcycling ".
It is what people have done for years. If you buy insurance, you are prepping. If you take advantage of a 3for2 offer you are prepping.
It's entirely up to you whether you take it further.

If it does come to a no deal, Stockpilers will cause the initial panic, because they all ridiculed the preppers and didn't start putting a little bit away every week months before.

I'm storing a tonne of food on my waistline for later. It's not fat, it's forward planning.

I always thought preppers were batshit crazy. With Brexit looming, I'm prepping. From my point of view, I can't lose - I'll either
a) be proved right
b) find it wasn't necessary and just use all my tins etc up slowly
c) donate anything I'm unlikely to use prior to expiry to the food bank

I'd sooner be over prepared than find myself starving because the Dover-Calais border is a shambles and Open Skies means planes cannot take off or land, even domestically.

@Elfinablender , as much as that post is funny (and it is), please be aware - I'm also an old gimmer so pontificating comes easy to me - that carrying extra weight is not an insurance policy against running low on food. We all need the boring stuff like protein and vitamins etc as well as fat. Or we are vulnerable to health problems.