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can't afford to prep for brexit

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paintinmyhairAgain · 18/11/2018 12:34

wrong board but the preppers will probably flame me, as you will might for mentioning it on here Grin.
i was wondering if things goes toes up and there are food shortages, what happens with people who can't afford to -hoard- store up goods i.e the elderly and people on very tight budgets already living hand to mouth relying on food banks ?
any thoughts ?

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bellinisurge · 18/11/2018 19:31

@AvocadosBeforeMortgages - precisely

Elfinablender · 18/11/2018 19:38

It's ok Bellini it was just a joke

bellinisurge · 18/11/2018 19:41

@Elfinablender sorry for lecturing but people often say stuff like "I don't need to prep, I'm overweight " or "hey, at least it'll solve the obesity crisis".

lettuceWrap · 18/11/2018 19:43

My opinion (not that anyone asked for it Grin), is that those who have the space and the cash to prep, should do it - because if things really go tits up, emergency supplies brought in by the army (or whatever arrangement is used), will then be needed by a smaller number of people.

As I was brought up in an isolated rural area, and still live in a fairly rural area, I prep anyway (it’s just sensible). I’ll be making sure that one of my usual (every few months) big Costco stock ups happens in January.

I think even those on a quite restricted budget would be sensible to try and set aside 3 or 4 days supply of food, if they can. That wouldn’t have to be anything fancy but would provide a cushion just in case... maybe a big box of cereal, multi pack of UHT milk, multi pack of beans, tuna, rice etc.

KingPrawnBalls · 18/11/2018 19:49

Hope for the best and prepare for the worst, is my advice.

Gingerrogered · 18/11/2018 19:52

What the help do you idiots think will happen? For the top social classes who were the only group to vote a majority for Remain - yeah I can see who you're worried about losing the privileges the EU gives you.

Do you think all the people who voted leave would be frightened? Frightened we couldn't earn a wage decent enough to feed and clothe our families and put a roof over there heads? We've been a member of the EU for over 30 years, things are much worae , not better.

bellinisurge · 18/11/2018 19:56

Who are you talking to

TheyBuiltThePyramids · 18/11/2018 20:01

Things are worse at the moment, but not because of the EU.

rainbowquack · 18/11/2018 20:07

@Gingerrogered

Whaaaaat? Where are you getting this information?

Graphista · 18/11/2018 20:10

Ginger (you again?) if you're relying on mainstream media for accurate info I rather think it's you needs to do more research.

"Where would they fly from, the closest USAF base would be Rammstein Germany." Now there's a thought! If they do I demand German cheeses, potato salad, pickled garlic, sauerkraut, dickmanns, natural yogurt (full
fat none of this low fat malarkey), pastries, good hot choc, mushroom sauce, paprika Pringles, strudel, warsteiner, kohlroulade, and of course with Christmas approaching I'm thinking stollen, liebkuchen, gluhwein, winterapfel schnapps... Man I miss German food!

"The UK is facing a perfect storm, a failed harvest, followed by a very cold winter. This coupled with UC means that a hard Brexit is going to be catastrophic."

"The people we really have to question are the likes of Jacob Rees-Mogg." I think it's blatantly clear him & his ilk couldn't give a shit about anyone else, they're only interested in the profits they'll make from the whole debacle.

I've occasionally lurked on and rarely posted on prepper threads and agree with Bellini that the preppers are generally lovely. I don't post often as I am finding the whole thing very stressful and if I get too into it with my OCD I get a bit overwhelmed.

Sandinyourshoes - the power thing concerns me too. Yes there's power stations in U.K. - many are inactive and aren't safe to use. Plus many apparently British companies are actually eu suppliers, yet worryingly not aware of this being discussed anywhere.

JudasPrudy - definitely! Those lucky enough to enjoy relatively good health and not need benefits and never been homeless have not experienced just how little urgency there is to resolve matters.

Bellini - great tip on wind up torch, had one ages ago and lost it. Power cuts last winter due to the bad weather meant I was often using the torch on my phone - but of course that drained the battery! So I'm starting a list of things to get:

Batteries for old style radio
Wind up torch

Onthenaughtystepagain - they can easily sell more to other existing eu customers or elsewhere worldwide. For med countries African isn't so far to sell to, for Northern eu countries Asia isn't as far as one might think, or even Canada/USA. I wouldn't depend on their desire to sell to us too much.

Catx1606 - the elderly I know are well ahead of the game! They tend to prep anyway to be ready for illness, bad weather etc as most of them are aware they're more vulnerable. My parents live in a valley that's cut off every winter sometimes for up to a month. They weren't prepared the first winter (despite grans warnings) but learnt from their mistake and are now sorted. It's mainly dads meds they struggle with as several are controlled substances that you're not allowed to stockpile.

My grandparents I now realise were preppers but they probably would have just called it "being organised". All served in ww2, so were very familiar with rationing, dig for victory, making food go further. The ones that lived in the valley often ended up helping neighbours out in bad winters - generally younger folk who weren't local and were caught unawares. They had a garden and my granda grew veg into his 70's. The ones "in town" always had a ton of dried goods and tins in the "glory hole" cupboard (I know...don't get me started), also batteries, old radios even a CB set up! Both sets also had first aid kits, spare tyres for cars, spades for digging out the snow, sturdy (not kids play types) sleds for bringing shopping home. And they used things like hot water bottles anyway.

"Stockpilers will cause the initial panic, because they all ridiculed the preppers and didn't start putting a little bit away every week months before." I think you mean "panic buyers" but yes I agree. It'll be those who didn't prep that will cause the problems.

Avocado - spot on!

SusanWalker · 18/11/2018 20:13

I'm poor, live in a poor area solely on benefits. I voted remain and I'm currently getting one or two extra things a week. DS has autism and is really restricted in his eating habits.

I think prices will rise initially, although it is possible they'll fall back again. But I can't take the risk of not being able to feed my kids. Quite often when DS is not well I can't leave him alone and he can't leave the house. If shortages happen and you have to queue or turn up at certain times i will be screwed.

I also think the US are waiting to 'rescue' us. They will let us suffer for several weeks then swoop in with a trade deal already written and ready to sign as a price for their 'help'. And it won't be a beneficial one, at least not for us.

Thomasinaa · 18/11/2018 20:28

Being one of the world's richest countries unfortunately doesn't mean that those at the bottom of the heap are well supported. The Tories don't give a toss about the poor. They've made that abundantly clear. We have massive financial inequality.
The consequence of this, if/when there is no food in the shops, will be looting/burglaries.

MakeAHouseAHome · 18/11/2018 20:36

🤣🤣🤣 Haven't had a chance to read all the comments yet but 'prepping' is that a joke!! Food shortages to the point you want to hoard 🤣🤣

LovesLaboursLost · 18/11/2018 20:47

Ginger, we’re not talking about freedom of movement and people’s villas in the south of France here. We’re talking about the real actual international laws that will lead to reductions in food supply in the event of no deal. I assume you’re either sitting in Moscow copying and pasting posts or are really really thick.

LovesLaboursLost · 18/11/2018 20:49

Britain only gets 6% of electricity from outside its borders. And it’s mostly used as extra capacity. So the chances of England, Wales and Scotland having power issues in the event of no deal are low unless it coincided with a prolonged spell of very cold weather. NI however shares an energy production market with ROI, so could have problems.

Angelicinnocent · 18/11/2018 20:49

Anybody interested in reading a different viewpoint of no deal Brexit. The article below is by a former Australian prime minister who explains exactly how the disaster scenarios can be avoided.

Whether you are a remainer or a leaver, I think it's interesting reading.

www.spectator.co.uk/2018/10/tony-abbott-how-to-save-brexit/

whatsthestory123 · 18/11/2018 20:50

i think my chemist is onto something

they are usually shocking with script deliveries and not unusual to have to phone them, the last 2 months they have been approx 5 days early

TheElementsSong · 18/11/2018 20:58

This Brexit thing is like wave-particle duality - it's both the portal to Britain's Untold Greatness in which all things which each individual thinks is important to change will become Amazing, and yet will also result in no changes whatsoever whereby whichever other things are important to stay the same will be Unchanged.

If today I were to simultaneously run out of bread, milk, vegetables, painkillers, cash, petrol and have a freezer breakdown, I’d be pretty annoyed but am sure that I could step out of my door and obtain all of the above now. How many people have complete cast-iron certainty that this will continue to be the case in the aftermath of a No-Deal Crash to Freedom?

So, those who Truly BeLeave should be delighted to pledge not to prepare for any disruption, right?

Type the usual thing about hysteria, then type something like “I swear not to save so much as a grain of rice or tin of beans, to keep my freezer empty, to have less than 1/4 tank of petrol, and less than £10 cash - thus will I demonstrate my unswerving certainty that there will be not an iota of disruption post-Brexit”. Ta-dah! Patriotic True BeLeaving Positive Public Leadership Duty done!

You have to say you'll properly Not Prepare though - to truly reflect your confidence that everything will carry on without disruption, you should keep nothing in stock (no food in freezer, no tinned food, no packets of paracetamol, and no especial levels of savings - IIRC the last time this sort of topic came up, it was suggested that people cutting back on unnecessary expenditure and building up emergency savings was unpatriotic).

Gwan, let's have a thread full of pledges, it's the patriotic BeLeaving thing to do, like magic kryptonite against the traitorous scaremongering right?

(PS. Best part is, you can do your patriotic duty by typing your pledge here, and still fill your loft with tinned beans, and nobody will know! Grin)

bellinisurge · 18/11/2018 21:05

You'll never get a pledge out of a No Dealer.

ohreallyohreallyoh · 18/11/2018 21:15

people complaining about Brexit will cause it to go bad

You’re not serious? If we don’t agree that Brexit will restore this country to some kind of former glory, it will be our fault if that turns out to be the case?

You know when you think you’ve heard it all...!

AvocadosBeforeMortgages · 18/11/2018 21:41

people complaining about Brexit will cause it to go bad

Whenever a child says "I don't believe in fairies" there's a little fairy somewhere that falls right down dead.
J. M. Barrie, Peter Pan (1904)

RebelWitchFace · 18/11/2018 21:42

I don't believe in Brexit. Will DC,BJ,NF. Etc drop dead?Grin

ohreallyohreallyoh · 18/11/2018 21:45

I don't believe in Brexit. Will DC,BJ,NF. Etc drop dead?

If only, eh?!

bellinisurge · 18/11/2018 21:46

Ridiculous how people were allowed to feel anxious about ... immigration or whatever before Brexit vote but they aren't allowed to be anxious now. In fact, it is unpatriotic to be anxious.
How about No Dealers reassuring people in poverty that the days weeks months after No Deal will be fine and there's no need to worry. And that it will be fine because [insert factual reason that stands up to scrutiny].

VerbeenaBeeks · 18/11/2018 21:51

Yes I have some thoughts. Get a grip. We are one of the richest countries in the world and this is the 21st century, of course there will not be food shortages. Project Fear rumbles on

This, and I'm someone who voted remain.