Brexit -have you changed your mind??

[Leapfrog44]

I know Brexit has been done to death and I'm not asking for anyone's justification for wanting out or in.

I'm just really curious to know if any of the folks who voted leave have changed their minds (as is sometimes reported by the Guardian).

I voted to join in the first Referendum and remain in the second referendum. Still a remainer.
Shame that those who fought so hard for 40 years for another referendum because they did not like the first one, are so unhappy about remainers wanting another vote- now we know they were telling such lies.
Yes I do know people who have changed their minds- and already lost their jobs.

British MPs can - and do - also employ family members as assistants (no longer allowed for new MPs as at last year's general election). The change to no longer allow MPs to do this was only because of the expenses scandal.

Many of the things you mentioned scribbles could be changed though with sufficient pressure....

bahhumbuggery well that's ok then, everyone's at it.

Hors do you really believe that???

Scribbles..

So leaving the EU will sort all that stuff out forever in the UK. Nah. not a fkn chance.

I haven’t changed my mind but my DD who is now old enough to vote would join me, given the chance, in voting remain, along with 80+% of her generation.

Figment,

It is all about the next generation really, not the current one.

UK is a little island in a sea of the EU. They will have to acknowledge that being inside the tent is better than outside it.

ROI (Ireland) has managed fine and is a lesson to us all as to how to negotiate. I love that PM sorry TEE SHOCK. (Taoiseach) lol.

No. I voted Leave and would vote the same way again. I want out before the EU gravy train implodes.

Was on the fence but because of how the EU has treated us in the negotiations we have to leave NOW with no deal and separate completely.

I don't see anything wrong with the way the EU has treated us. This mess was of our own making and I don't think they have any obligation to bend over backwards to accommodate us.

Fairly sure Wdfg trots that nonsense out on every Brexit thread, unless I am mistaken. It's simply not true.

I didn't vote and I still wouldn't know how to. Far more important to me is the actual leadership of this country. From the misinformation that abouds, about Brexit, and many other things, to the mistrust and disengagement of the British public to their own politicians and the inability or lack of will to deliver whatever political promises are made, we are in a sorry state.
Political writers are talking of the UK as being very close to being a false democracy, some have opined that we already are. In, or out of Europe, we have no leadership that is effective and truly representative in our own Country. That is the real tragedy.

bahhumbuggery
No it won't, but at least we have only one lot of thieving bastard to contend with

Voted Remain

Would still vote Remain

But I'm worried about what angry bunch of Brexiters would unleash if they don't get their way.

If we stayed in we would eventually have to adopt the Euro. Someone laughed at me a few months ago when I said we could end up being involved with a European Army the headlines of the last few days support my statement. How can anyone be happy with being controlled by unelected bureaucrats in Brussels?

Well, if we leave, I think the UK will break up. Scotland will push for another IndyRef and I think this time they'll get it. That will be fun and games.

Yes I have.

I voted remain but to be honest, I don't care what terms and conditions they get or deal or no deal, I just want it over so we can all start getting used to the new what ever it is that will happen .

The total clusterfuck that we are currently witnessing should convince anyone that Britain is making a catastrophic mistake. The government is completely incompetent and totally dysfunctional. May would be hopelessly out of her depth running a parish council, never mind a G7 country.

The referendum should never have happened in the first place. Millions of people were either duped by the Leave campaign’s lies, or were too ill-informed to understand the issues. Anyone with more than 3 brain cells who has ever visited NI saw the border problems coming.

No, I haven’t changed my mind...

No. It always was a crazy idea, the referendum was only done to keep David Cameron as prime minister, and he couldn't even succeed at that. Fucking useless, ignorant, entitled, stupid, STUPID bastard. Where on earth did he go to school? Oh… wait...

If anyone remembers life as an adult in this country before 1 January 1973, you know how good the Common Market/EEC/EU has been for us in so many ways that affect our everyday lives.

All political systems are merely works in progress and get problems that need the population to rise up and say enough! That's where the EU is now, and why I'm a member of DiEM25. That's also where this country is, and will be while we have the ridiculous FPTP voting system.

The gutter press in this country have never reported how disappointed so many Europeans are that we (allegedly) decided to leave when they were desperately wanting us to stay and lead the fight to change the EU. I'm just back from a week with friends in Berlin and we've been discussing exactly this.

I've cried at how much we're being laughed at because the Secretary for Leaving the European Union admitted that he really had little clue that the UK is actually an island, or how many lorries carrying food pass through Dover each year, or even that Dover is by far the main port for entry of food to the UK, and works to absolute capacity every day of the year. I read in Berliner Tagesspiegel that even his own civil servants call him Raab C. Brexit because of his extreme ignorance. (ref. Rab C. Nesbit). He also didn't know that the EU started work months ago to ensure that the ports in The Netherlands and Belgium which have to increase capacity for Irish exports will be able to do so, and won't be accessible to UK exporters after 29 March next year. The only continental ports open to UK exporters will be on the north France coast. FFS.

I could rabbit on, I feel very deeply, strongly, that this is wrong. My father was a child refugee from Mussolini's Italy after his father and two elder brothers were shot down in the street on their way to school, because of a remote family connection to someone the regime saw as a threat. He was ill and unable to go, which is why he survived. When the original Treaty of Rome was signed in 1957 we were in Rome, because he had to be there on the great day, and I had absorbed his politics. The first reason in the treaty document for this union, is to secure peace through close co-operation and friendship, and that's what we're losing. I feel this so much, it's in my DNA. If you read all the way through this – thank you.

Thank you Figural. You've articulated perfectly how I feel about this fiasco. I have a special place in Hell reserved for Cameron.

I voted Remain. Not changed my mind one bit.

I voted remain but to be honest, I don't care what terms and conditions they get or deal or no deal

You don't care that crime, policing and security matters have not even made it to the negotiating table yet? That in the absence of a European Arrest Warrant or formal agreement/ plans in place around the sharing of security intelligence and information will literally leave the UK less secure and more open to terrorism and organised crime than at any point in recent history? Wow. That's all kinds of stupid. And that's just one factor.

No

Rainbowquack, you're going to be seriously disappointed as this is just the start. It's going to take decades to sort out. It will probably be all anyone talks about for years, as the impact will be so great on the general population. Wait til we start trying to sort out trade. This is just the very beginning of hell.