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Brexit -have you changed your mind??

458 replies

Leapfrog44 · 13/11/2018 15:28

I know Brexit has been done to death and I'm not asking for anyone's justification for wanting out or in.

I'm just really curious to know if any of the folks who voted leave have changed their minds (as is sometimes reported by the Guardian).

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DGRossetti · 14/11/2018 14:04

National Front and oral sex.

Kinda redefines "hard right" don't you think ?

SilverDoe · 14/11/2018 14:09

I am a remainder intuitively because I just think it is more caring and good to have open borders - it’s just a natural instinct and the thought of people feeling not welcome here was something I really different want. I value all people and their contributions and voting to leave felt like turning my back on that.

I would still like to remain but I have no idea what is actually going on - there’s so much propaganda from both sides and so much stuff I have no idea about despite reading every news source that I still have no idea what’s accurate and what’s not.

I’m hopeful that we will be okay and that this won’t be an economic and moral downturn for the UK. I’ve always since I heard we were leaving been worried about us starting to import food from America that doesn’t meet EU regulations. I’m also not very well off and have 2 young children to support and I am really quite worried about the cost of food and general living going up even higher, but again I really don’t know how much is accurate and what the outcome will really be.

If we had a second referendum I would vote to remain.

jasjas1973 · 14/11/2018 14:10

She's got a bloody deal against all odds and when people said she wouldn't. I can't stand her politics but she has at least gone out there and got this deal

Why would anyone be pleased with this deal?
We carry-on paying in, abide by the rules and regs, have no say in the making of these.
We should either stay in the EU or leave in its entirety.

I do not remember this 3rd option on the ballot paper.

chloem93 · 14/11/2018 14:11

No, if anything I am more Leave then I was when I cast my vote. The true immaturity of our own government and the remain campaigns 'racist' labels at us Leave voters have made my view stronger.

Jason118 · 14/11/2018 14:12

What is your view based on, how has the actions of government strengthened that view?

DGRossetti · 14/11/2018 14:15

I do not remember this 3rd option on the ballot paper.

For over 2 years, we've had to put up with Breixteers telling us exactly what was on the ballot paper and what it meant. It's axiomatic that this is what they wanted, and they are going to get it.

If they think it should be something different, they should have said so on the way, instead of telling the 48% how to spell L-O-S-E.

smilethoyourheartisbreaking · 14/11/2018 14:16

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Jagblue · 14/11/2018 14:22

No more determined than ever to leave.

TheyBuiltThePyramids · 14/11/2018 14:26

Still remain

SilverDoe · 14/11/2018 14:27

Without sounding sarcastic can someone who says this is a good deal or a bad one link to where they’re getting the objective information? All I can find is vague news articles and I just want to know what the hell is going to happen once this all comes to fruition, particularly in terms of food prices Confused

Jagblue · 14/11/2018 14:28

I voted to leave but I completely agree that there was no plan to follow after a leave vote.
They were prepared to stay and I think it was reckless to ask such a massive question without years of preparation.
I only really wanted reform but the EU it's impossible to reason with that's why I voted leave but I didn't expect the mess they are making out of it.
It's frightening how divided we are over this issue.

DGRossetti · 14/11/2018 14:31

Without sounding sarcastic can someone who says this is a good deal or a bad one link to where they’re getting the objective information?

Objective information and Brexit ? Never seen in the same room.

If a Brexiteer started asking for "objective information" I think the Universe may end, to be replaced with something even weirder.

SilverDoe · 14/11/2018 14:43

If a Brexiteer started asking for "objective information" I think the Universe may end, to be replaced with something even weirder.

Grin

I shall just have to continue with my blissful optimism then!

SilverDoe · 14/11/2018 14:44

Ignorance!*

scaryteacher · 14/11/2018 14:49

Still leave, and the sooner the better.

FishesaPlenty · 14/11/2018 14:59

Still leave, and the sooner the better.

Have I understood you right? You voted leave but you now want a possibly indefinite period of us subject to EU rules while having no say in making them? You're one of those leavers who isn't interested in sovereignty or 'taking back control' then are you?

beachysandy81 · 14/11/2018 14:59

No change - still remain.

FishesaPlenty · 14/11/2018 15:01

We have a draft that might get past parliament

We have a draft Withdrawal Agreement which might get past Parliament and would put us in a worse position than we are now. We don't have an actual deal which gets us past having one foot out of the door though.

scaryteacher · 14/11/2018 15:14

What part of 'the sooner the better' (in March 2019 without a deal if necessary) didn't you understand Fishesaplenty

Jagblue · 14/11/2018 15:22

With Checkers we are IN and OUT in a limbo state. I guess we all win by losing. Pleases everyone and nobody the worse of both worlds.
Right now it's not about leave or stay it's about scraping something together ASAP.

FishesaPlenty · 14/11/2018 15:24

What part of 'the sooner the better' (in March 2019 without a deal if necessary) didn't you understand

Well you've finally found out what 'leaving' means haven't you? And you want to do that as soon as possible? Confused

SilverDoe · 14/11/2018 15:25

Can I ask why people are okay with no deal? Wouldn’t that leave us in a vulnerable and uncertain place? I’m pretty sure it’s the worst case scenario so wishing it simply for the sake of having it done a few months earlier seems incredibly irresponsible?

TheElementsSong · 14/11/2018 15:27

I'm a very staunch Remainer, but TBH I'm pretty confused about today's potential "deal" on the table (not least because all information about it seems to be coming from a series of leaks) but I got the impression that leading Brexiteers e.g. JRM and BJ are not happy with it. Yet nobody has resigned so far. However, it doesn't follow that just because JRM/BJ/etc hate this deal, that it necessarily means I (as a Remainer) should like it. I simply don't know, although my immediate concern is that we get some kind of deal to keep planes flying, food and medicines coming in, etc.

Those Leavers on this thread who have said they want a No Deal crash out (with all that a No Deal implies e.g. food/medicine having to be stockpiled), how are you feeling about a deal now possibly happening? Would you press for this deal to be rejected? Would you press for any deal to be rejected, say by lobbying MPs or marching, in order to get your desired No Deal crash out on March 29?

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Peregrina · 14/11/2018 15:42

Works both ways, I've just been told to 'grow up'!

I too had a F*uck off, I want to talk to a grown up, from a Leaver/troll who came and went over one weekend. They were asked a question.... we never did get a reply.

But they were better educated than the leave vote.

This is because Remainers tended to be much younger. Many of the older voters left school at 14 or 15, without being given the opportunities to be better educated but it didn't mean they were stupid.

And by contrast, Davis, Redwood, Fox, IDS, Johnson, don't lack an education and might as well be considered stupid for all the good it did them, but they have money so will buy their way out of any coming problems.

JellyBears · 14/11/2018 15:44

Nope.

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