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To be fed up of dh moaning that he’s hungry?

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Breadfoam · 12/11/2018 18:00

Dh is on a diet. He’s reduced his (massive) consumption down to 2000 calories a day. He spends a lot of time moaning that he is hungry and when we go places talking about how upsetting it is that he can’t eat what he wants. For example if we go out for a meal or something - previously he’d have had the biggest thing on the menu and some drinks but he has cut back.
Fair enough he’s doing well and he’s lost weight.

However because I’m a t1 diabetic and my sugars are brittle since having my daughter I can barely eat at all. It’s been 18 months since I ate a meal of any description and when we go out I actually have nothing to eat at all. I can either be hungry or feel ill so most of the time I am hungry. Occasionally I’m so hungry that I could cry. It pains me when he goes on about how hungry he is and how unfair it is when all I’ve eaten that day is half a piece of toast and some strawberries!

Aibu to find it insensitive? He’s actually bloody lucky that he can as he does and his pancreas works!

OP posts:
AutumnCrow · 12/11/2018 21:20

Would the keto diet be ok and not scare you, OP? There are vegetarian options.

Salads
Cauliflower base pizza (cauliflower with tomato and cheese)
Avocado with Greek yogurt
Green beans, olives and crumbled cheese

EstherMumsnet · 12/11/2018 21:22

Hi OP,

We're just popping in to remind you (and everybody on MN) that when it concerns your health like this real life medical advice is best option.

Flowers
AutumnCrow · 12/11/2018 21:25

Keep a diary, OP, and show it to your GP and get a new consultant.

Btw there is some evidence that a small vegetable breakfast with a vinegar dressing will help control the spikes. This is your life. It really matters.

SassitudeandSparkle · 12/11/2018 21:26

Your eating habits don't seem to have anything to do with your diabetes, OP. Nothing at all. If you are worried about blood sugar levels a carby piece of toast would not be your food of choice.

tildaMa · 12/11/2018 21:30

@Breadfoam

Toast is high carb but at a slice a day it isn’t particularly. I’m not eating an entire loaf.
Strawberries are low carb. About 7g per 100g and I’m not eating 100g...

You could eat a proper meal that will make you feel full for hours but you choose to eat a tiny amount worthless toast.

So day one I eat 10g carb, take insulin, blood sugar 6mmol afterwards. Great.
Day two I eat 10g of the same thing, take insulin, blood sugar is 15 afterwards and I feel ill. I couldn’t risk taking more insulin on day 2 as day 1 the amount I took was fine. Then I’m chasing the high blood sugar.
Can you see why it is easier not to eat?!

TBH I can't. If you consistently ate proper low carb but nutrient rich meals, your body would not go crazy like that.

MyBrexitIsIll · 12/11/2018 21:30

OP I wouod go and see a nutritionist.
Seriously, consultants are great but they not have the ressources to take you by the hand to explain WHY your blood sugar is so spiky.
Or to explain yu what to eat so you dint have too much sugar but still have a balanced diet.

Eg eating proteins with carbs will slow down the absorption of sugar and therefore will make it easier to control your blood sugar.

MeteorMedow · 12/11/2018 21:35

OP, I’m not being funny here but both my siblings are type one. I grew up in a house governed by type one and my mother is a walking type one encyclopaedia. Both my siblings are now adults and my DP is a doctor - what you’re describing sounds really odd. Yes when you hypo you’ll feel nauseous and unwell but you can correct yourself as you go.

Also if you’re hungry and don’t want to inject then go for super low/ no carbs.

My brother eats roast chicken and cheese cubes. Ham, poached (any) eggs and grilled salmon.

I don’t think you need to live the way you are and ofc that’s making you resent your DP. I’d go see your GP, I think there may be something else going on for you x

AutumnCrow · 12/11/2018 21:35

Breakfast could be mushrooms and tomatoes. Dash of balsamic vinegar.

You don't have to not eat.

AutumnCrow · 12/11/2018 21:38

And what these lovely sensible caring people said ^^

AbsentmindedWoman · 12/11/2018 21:43

You sound like you have diabetes burnout, OP Flowers

It's really tough. It sound like food has become a major source of anxiety for you.

To other posters who don't have type 1 - us type 1 diabetics generally still do need insulin to cover protein in the absence of carbs.

ButchyRestingFace · 12/11/2018 21:43

Is this what diabulimia is?

Anyway, YY to what all the PP said. Flowers

AbsentmindedWoman · 12/11/2018 21:52

"Eg eating proteins with carbs will slow down the absorption of sugar and therefore will make it easier to control your blood sugar."

Actually, this isn't always the case.

Most adults with type 1 are on injections as it's difficult to get pump funding - when I was on injections, it was easier to control food that was absorbed quicker as it was easier to match that to injection timing. Protein or fat delayed everything and made it even more about guesswork, despite 7 or 8 injections a day.

So, a slice of plain toast is actually easy for me to predict. I'm guessing the OP finds this too. And I eat moderately low carb, in the main.

I love my pump, life is a billion times easier!

NooNooHead · 12/11/2018 21:57

Having ‘only’ been recently controlling my gestational diabetes, I can only comment on this and not type 1, but I found I had to eat really really good low carb meals that constantly kept my blood sugar level, and it wasn’t that hard at all.

Breakfast was scrambled or boiled eggs, with ham and avocado plus a couple of Ryvitas. Or I might have lots of Greek yogurt with strawberries, grapes, blueberries, any other fruit etc. Lunch and main meals were lean white meat, fish, chicken, with a very small portion of whole meal /whole grain pasta or rice, or a casserole with a salad and lots of veg.

I varied it quite a lot and ate ‘treats’ such as a couple of squares of dark chocolate or a rice cake, or maybe a cacao hot chocolate too.

I had a decent sized portion every meal and ate really well, so well in fact that I didn’t need any medication and I actually lost weight while pregnant - nearly two stone - while impressing the diabetic team that I had managed so well.

It can be done!Wink

explodingkitten · 12/11/2018 22:13

Can you devise a diet that you'll eat consistently three times a day every day for a month and track all your bloodsugars? Some differences could be hormonal. For example, my basal needs are different before and after ovulation. Was a bit of a faff to find that one out.

Also, take a look at the 670g pump. I know that it feels terrible to be at 15 but you do need a healthy diet. An occasional high won't kill you within two years, your current eating habit can. I spent ten+ years waking up to a bloodsugar of 27+ before they believed me that I needed an insulin change. It was awful but didn't kill me. Please try some of our suggestions or talk with your medical team. If necessary go to a different specialist.

In the long run it's better to accept some high sugars and figure out what is wrong and fix it than making life long bad health decisions.

I hope that you get the help that you need to overcome this. Thanks

Solasshole · 12/11/2018 22:17

OP you are displaying very obvious signs of an ED like anorexia. You are making excuses not to eat instead of admitting you have a problem, being diabetic doesn't mean you have to starve. Please get some help. Your children won't thank you if you only held on long enough to see them grow up and then die as soon as they're adults because you didn't want to admit you have a problem Hmm

abbey44 · 12/11/2018 22:22

Breadfoam - have you ever heard of the term "diabulimia"...? Google it if you haven't. It's a not uncommon condition where a T1 becomes overly focused on taking as little insulin as possible for a variety of reasons - avoiding weight gain, fear of hypos among others - and trying to keep their blood sugars controlled by eating very little. It's becoming more widely recognised and there is help and support for people who have developed it, but you do need help as it's very difficult to break the cycle on your own.

I ask because I developed it myself, about a year after I was diagnosed (over 20 years ago) and I developed some very odd eating patterns to deal with it. Luckily my specialist at the time twigged what I was doing and I got the help I needed, and I did, because ultimately it's life-threatening. I was also putting myself at risk of long-term problems.

Please look it up and be honest with yourself. Get some help. There's a discussion topic on it on the Diabetes.co.uk forums, and you might find that helpful.

ScottCheggJnr · 12/11/2018 22:59

If he upped his protein intake he could probably be more full on 2000 cals. Chicken breast with roast veggies is filling and low cal - although he'd likely still crave carbs until his body adjusted to it.

Or he could do what I do and lift some weights so he can eat 3000 cals a day and not get fat.

PerryPerryThePlatypus · 12/11/2018 23:23

OP you very clearly have an ED. Please go to your gp tomorrow and tell them exactly how little you are eating. The body cannot sustain on such little amount of food, your heart brain liver kidneys are all at immediate risk.

craftqueen · 12/11/2018 23:38

Can you fill up on salads etc. Taking correction doses of your blood sugars are too high can help sometimes. I would advise you see a diabetic nurse and a nutritionist, as they can advise you and help you keep an eye on your sugars. Also you maybe taking too much or too less insulin at night/in morning.

Fairymad · 13/11/2018 06:23

You really need to see a diabetic specialist nurse, not having control over your sugars and not getting it looked into is just storing up trouble for future.
Having unstable blood sugars for an.extended period of time can increase your chances of dementia in later life, there are different types of insulin now that could be better maybe a combination of two would.help. please go and see someone

Goldensunnydays81 · 13/11/2018 06:44

Hi I’m a type1 diabetic and am currently doing my hospitals version of a DAFNE course, it is great and I’m learning a lot of new things and has been great to talk to others as well. It also helps that out Diabetic nurse is type 1 too.
I think that you really should consider the course, things like your body goes through stages in the day when you need a higher carb to insulin ratio and they can help you work that out. So if you have your toast and berries in the morning one day and then the next day in the afternoon you maybe need a higher ratio in the afternoon.
Also little things in the course like making sure you are injecing at a 90 degree angle so it is going in properly.

nolongersurprised · 13/11/2018 06:58

You sound like you have disordered eating and are using your diabetes as an excuse. I don’t think you should be posting on mumsnet discussing your daily intake of a bit of toast and a few strawberries.

Breadfoam · 13/11/2018 07:55

I’ve seen the dsn - quite a few times. My blood sugars are good (by not eating granted but they are good) and my a1c is excellent which is any clinic aren’t bothered as long as I’m not having lots of lows - which I’m not.

My issue is eating the same thing at the same time of day on different days gives me different results. I know I’m more insulin resistant in the mornings - everyone is - and I’m pretty sure there’s an underlying hormonal issue that is causing the unpredictability.

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Quartz2208 · 13/11/2018 08:08

Am I right in thinking that you are scared of following a Basal Bolus insulin regime. In particular the Bolus part so therefore are not eating.

All the professionals are telling you to do this, your husband cant understand why you wont and you wont eat because eating with mean you need to use the Bolus insulin. This is linked to the fact that you need to take different amount even if you eat the same?

I think a physical problem has manifested itself into a psychological one and you have a complete block over the bolus insulin. The problem is you are causing yourself more damage by not eating and not taking it.

Is it the differing amounts that worries and concerns you

BloomsButtons · 13/11/2018 08:11

My issue is eating the same thing at the same time of day on different days gives me different results.

OP I really think you have to stop focusing on this and instead focus on sorting out your diet and eating habits. What you are doing now is not keeping you healthy and leaving you at high risk of malnutrition.

If you were to test a selection of the population both T1 and not when eating the same food at the same time of day there would be sure to be variation in blood sugar levels across the whole sample.