to think the hospital should have kicked them out a long time ago?!

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www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/mum-daughter-live-hospital-15-13576615
21 year old woman and her mother have been living in a hospital room for 15 months!

It may be that the Barnet hospital is the one that deals with her medical issues in the future so they will need to live in Barnet, rather than 7 your round trip away in Grimsby. I know that my ds had to go to hospitals hundreds of miles away at times as in the regional teaching hospital they didn't have certain specialities.

It may be that the Barnet hospital is the one that deals with her medical issues in the future so they will need to live in Barnet, rather than 7 your round trip away in Grimsby. I know that my ds had to go to hospitals hundreds of miles away at times as in the regional teaching hospital they didn't have certain specialities.

Even they're not trying that argument. We do have disabled people oop norf you know. And our hospitals are better than yours.

I am having a proper LOL at all the lefty contortions to justify this.

Definitely should be kicked out , they have an offer of a home if they don’t like it sort one out themselves.I’m sure there are very many ill patients in that hospital who would value some privacy, especially end of life patients.

Ginger it isn't about a hospital being better, or where it is in the North/South divide. It may deal with a speciality that a local but massive, regional hospital doesn't. I didn't even read the story, I don't live in the South and I'm not a leftist. I do however know that people with complex medical histories are not always easy to treat. I live in a large city with a very well known and respected teaching hospital. Ds has surgery recently and the surgeon came on a plane for the day so that we wouldn't have a six hour drive to where she was based.

Grimsby, Cleethorpes and surrounding areas are lovely and home to a lot of people. It's no more a dump that any other town
Have you been?!
The affluent areas are lovely, Waltham and a certain street in Cleethorpes. But it's a poor seaside town and the city centre is grim.
The football fans have a reputation for violence.
The Nunsthorpe estate is one of the roughest, awful place.
You are forgetting that they have been offered SOCIAL housing, and these areas are the horrible ones. They're not in one of the Mock Tudor detatched on the outskirts, which are indeed lovely.

5 mins by car and you are in the countryside
How feasible is that for the daughter in an electric wheelchair?
Apologies that I've just seen you live there. And it's no worse than areas of London, but I wouldn't say it's a town where they should be grateful to return to. Particularly isolating if you have no family there because Lincolnshire is quite difficult to leave in terms of public transport, in comparison to say Nottingham.

@Cat0115 thanks Will check that out.

"It may deal with a speciality that a local but massive, regional hospital doesn't"

as does Broomfield Hospital which is the one nearest to me. Its where the burns unit is.

i posted a few days ago saying she had locked her twitter account...................now shes deleted it completely.

i hope she hasnt had any nasty threats because of this.

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/benefit-cuts-hit-mad-cow-disease-sufferer-0wwml87fd

A girl born brain-damaged after her mother contracted the human form of mad cow disease (BSE) faces losing her home because of benefit cuts linked to the switch to universal credit.

"Since her mother’s death when she was seven months old, Emily Lydon, now 19 — who is unable to speak, walk or eat for herself — has been brought up by her grandmother, Jean Godfrey.

Last month Jean, 68, was told their joint income was to be slashed from the £720 a week needed to pay for Emily’s 24-hour care and transport to £342

Jean Emilys main carer now faces having to sell their bungalow in East Markham in Nottinghamshire."

i dont understand in the article how their their money has gone down so much,its rather sketchy with info so cant really comment

^^ DLA and PIP are stopped after 28 days in hospital. .

They said that because when this pair abandoned the fully adapted house they already have, they also stopped paying council tax (ie, they pocketed the money they were paid by Universal Credit for that purpose

@gingerrogered, under Universal Credit, Council Tax Support sits outside Universal Credit and is still given by local authorities under local schemes. So claimants will not be being given money for council tax which they then have to pay it’s reduced at source.

The fact that the hospital haven't taken steps to evict them speaks volumes here.
It's evident that prior to last week there was no offer of accommodation. If the girl needs ongoing care it might only be Mum who can give it.
Also if you have a child with additional needs you tend to go where they do. Ifmy child was hospitalised miles from home wild horses wouldn't keep me from being near him. Even at nearly college age he still requires lots of support. And yes if that meant losing a tenancy so be it. Much more important that I was by his side. Tenancies can be sorted out once he was well.

And if it waa an ongoing problem and the hospital was a specialist one then I might ask to be housed close to it so I didn't run the risk of losing my tenancy every timemy child needed treatment.

There's a lot of assumption and misinformation on this thread. The council tax comment is the least of it.

It’s not a specialist hospital (or if it is for any particular ology that’s irrelevant here).

They’d already left their perfectly suitable house Grimsby due to ASBO neighbours and gone to stay with the older daughter before the younger daughter was admitted to hospital.

It’s hard to say what the rights or wrongs are here. No one wants to live on a rough council estate- but plenty of other people have to put and shut up with unpleasant neighbours.

Hospitals can and do evict patients. The fact they haven’t done this suggests there is more than is being shared in the media.

@gingerrogered, under Universal Credit, Council Tax Support sits outside Universal Credit and is still given by local authorities

This is not true, the local authority have to accept your application for council tax support, but it's not paid by them, it is paid direct to tenants as part of the universal credit housing payment.

he fact that the hospital haven't taken steps to evict them speaks volumes here.
It's evident that prior to last week there was no offer of accommodation

It does speak volumes but not the ones you think it does. The hospital cannot throw out a disabled teenager on the streets, but they cannot house her without sending out the message that if you want a flat in London, get admitted to hospital and refuse to leave - then open sesame, jump the queue.

And no offer of accommodation is irrelevant, for the first six months they were there, they weren't even homeless. They held a tenancy for a suitable adapted house.

I know of similar situations where vulnerable people lose their accommodation during a hospital stay and the LA drag their feet finding accommodation (because there isn't any much of the time and no money for private accommodation either).

Why do you want to see vulnerable people homeless? And why would you think something reported in a tabloid newspaper is true?

my post of 17.31 yesterday shows that the family will have to sell the bungalow they live in due to UC

i wonder where the adapted home for them will come from.

Helena that story is about a completely different family. The two in hospital don't have a house to sell, but they do have a secure offer of a tenancy in a properly adapted home.

In fact, the people in the second story, would be exactly the people shoved out of their place in the queue by this pair of chancers.

If this had been the trust I had worked for they'd have been out a loooong time ago, no messing. Must depend on where you live.

the people in the second story shouldnt HAVE to be in the queue because they shouldnt have to even consider selling their home.

Gingerrogered Hospitals can and do evict patients.

the second story is very vague to say the least