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to think the hospital should have kicked them out a long time ago?!

227 replies

lalalemon · 12/11/2018 13:19

www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/mum-daughter-live-hospital-15-13576615
21 year old woman and her mother have been living in a hospital room for 15 months!

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Bombardier25966 · 12/11/2018 14:17

It doesn't take psychic abilities to know someone will need clothes!

You should never rely solely on what a newspaper tells you.

LuggsaysNotaWomen · 12/11/2018 14:17

If the daughter has complex needs, the hospital may welcome the mother as her caregiver because it shifts the load from the staff. Just because she is well enough to be discharged doesn’t mean she can live independently.

Bombardier25966 · 12/11/2018 14:23

That's a really good point Luggsays. I was allowed to have someone stay with me when I was admitted, albeit obviously a much shorter stay.

ElspethFlashman · 12/11/2018 14:24

There are always a lot of cases like this. People go into hospital, their care needs substantially change, their home environment is no longer suitable for them, but they have no money to privately fund a suitable environment so they have to just wait. And wait.

There was a woman 3 years in my local hospital, medically discharged. She had very very complex physical needs and couldn't go back home. It was awful. She ended up bring several court cases against the council in order to light a fire under them.

There is another lady currently in my local hospital. Very elderly. Has been medically discharged for the past 2 years. Is a ward of court and is literally waiting that long for her court date. She has dementia and is on a 14 bed ward. She is quite content as she has no idea how long she has been there. The staff are phenomenal to her. Her obs are only done once a week though as she's not unwell.

It's so awful but I suspect happens everywhere.

overagain · 12/11/2018 14:24

One month is not enough time for the flat to be repossessed unless the repossession was already in process or the property was temporary accommodation.

This is a very fishy story.

PMSwithacockinmydress from the little the story says, I don't think either mum nor daughter has significant disabilities.

PMSwithacockinmydress · 12/11/2018 14:26

No, am sure she's one of those 'fake disabled people' Hmm

Shiklah · 12/11/2018 14:27

This is a complex story and the disabled black young woman at the centre of it does not need critising for being in a situation she cannot help. It is an 'outrage' when this happens to elderly people, why is she a scrounger. Poor woman, imagine being in the papers like that and knowing that you already stand out in your wheel chair.

Irresponsible reporting.

DeloresJaneUmbridge · 12/11/2018 14:28

Loads. It being said, likelihood is that they have nowhere suitable to move into to. If the daughter is disabled she may need specific accommodation and so although is for to be discharged they have nowhere to go to.

Hospitals don’t facilitate this kind of thing without very good reason.

Stuff the Mirror with its snidey and I’ll edicated reporting,

SaucyJack · 12/11/2018 14:30

“ I don't think either mum nor daughter has significant disabilities”

Do you think she’s in that wheelchair for a laugh, then?

LuggsaysNotaWomen · 12/11/2018 14:31

I don't think either mum nor daughter has significant disabilities.

What?! She’s in a motorised wheelchair. They don’t give them out to every Tom, Dick and Harry who’ve just stubbed their toe, you know?!

Underhisi · 12/11/2018 14:33

The mother would be allowed to stay there as her daughter's carer. It looks like the daughter has a significant physical disability and obviously we don't know about other sorts.
With the daughter being in hospital the mother if she is her carer, may lose benefits related to that - despite still doing the caring.

AamdC · 12/11/2018 14:35

Much mpre to this thsn meets the eye when i was a mental health nurse (when theire were a lot more beds than there are now) sometimes we had patients that were stable and didnt need to be in hosputal but had no accomadation due to various reasons and social workers couldnt fund new accomadation but the patients were to vulnerable to be discharged.

BarbarianMum · 12/11/2018 14:36

I don't understand all the "shock, horror" about this either well actually I do, it's because they're black and have a foreign surname. Bed blocking because the local authority won't get its act together is very common.

LagunaBubbles · 12/11/2018 14:41

from the little the story says, I don't think either mum nor daughter has significant disabilities

Apart from her being in a wheelchair obviously!

LakieLady · 12/11/2018 14:41

I had a paraplegic client who was fit for discharge for over a year before the council found him suitable accommodation.

I suspect this sort of thing is more common than we realise.

I've also had a case that was the other way round: surgeon wouldn't operate on a client until the client had suitable accommodation, because he didn't him blocking a bed while waiting for the council to get its act together. Afaik, he's still waiting.

happypoobum · 12/11/2018 14:43

Yeah OP, hospital should have kicked them out long ago! Let the disabled girl and her mother sleep on the streets eh?

People like you make me sick.

Ladygodivasroom · 12/11/2018 14:49

Sorry, never thought about the timescale re eviction. Agree with others it's probably to do with lack of suitable accommodation. I guess if people don't like what's happening they could always vote for a government that doesn't sell off housing and that funds social care properly.

KittyVonCatsington · 12/11/2018 14:49

The article I read stated that they are bedblocking because they are in Barnet and what to be homed there but are registered in Grimsby. Grimsby have said if they return there, they will be re-homed by them. Judging by the fact the daughter is going to college in North London, maybe they don't want to move back up north on purpose.

Sleepyblueocean · 12/11/2018 14:49

I wonder if the OP would be happy for a vulnerable family member to be told to leave with nowhere suitable to go.

BarbarianMum · 12/11/2018 14:50

I do think the NHS should be able to recoupe the costs of bed blocking from the relevant LA though.

Confuzzlediddled · 12/11/2018 14:50

Considering they call her powered wheelchair a motorised scooter I wouldn't have much confidence in the 'facts'

choccyp1g · 12/11/2018 14:53

If you ever watch DIY SOS, there are lots of cases like this, where the disabled person can't come home from hospital until the house is substantially rearranged.

In this case, they haven't even got a house to go back to, but it is probably not their fault at all.
The family might even have encouraged the newspaper to publicise it, in the hope of shaming the council.

Jaxhog · 12/11/2018 14:54

Why was she in a hospital in Barnet, if lives(ed) in Grimsby? I would have thought there were hospitals much nearer.

Sleepyblueocean · 12/11/2018 14:54

You don't get a powered wheelchair easily. One of my friends was told there was a
2 year NHS wait for one.

lalalemon · 12/11/2018 14:55

I totally get that the hospital can't discharge her until there is suitable accomadstion do them to go to.
But it seems they are wanting to stay in Barnet, but Barnet council have no responsibility for them.
We don't know why or how she came to be admitted to Barnet hospital as appose to a more local hospital.

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