to think the hospital should have kicked them out a long time ago?!

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www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/mum-daughter-live-hospital-15-13576615
21 year old woman and her mother have been living in a hospital room for 15 months!

All i could think was, "Why couldn't I have thought of doing something like that instead of paying rent?"

Hee hee. The mother must have had something wrong with her and the daughter just joined her.

Poor things. It must be a really shit life for them. No having friends home for tea, no mates overnight, no cooking, communal bathrooms and loos, constant worry about contagion from patients and patients' visitors... so little agency over your own life.

Why was the dd hospitalised in Barnet when she lived in Grimsby?

Rachelover40, you haven't actually read the report, have you? I suggest you do so.

If it took her a month to be ready for discharge and she uses a wheelchair it sounds like there are some pretty heavy medical issues going on. The article is shoddy reporting and doesn't give us any information really. I wonder if they gave up their flat because it wasn't fitting their medical needs any longer?

Wow, I really hit a nerve!

So, it's ok for me to keep paying increasing taxes to fund people who want to live somewhere I can't afford?

FingerPrint, NELC are indeed a shower of shit. And I don't think DPOW hospital come out of this all shiny either.

You can't afford Grimsby?

Lol at the idea that someone would voluntarily and connivingly spend 15 months living in a hospital ward, with all of the privations and limitations that involves, in order to get a council flat in bloody Barnet.

I would imagine it may feel quite isolating to be from an ethnic minority background and live in a predominantly white town, such as Grimsby. This feeling of isolation may be compounded by having a disability which restricts ability to travel comfortably. Also, if this lady was being treated at Barnet hospital because they can provide specialist treatment that is not available locally, then if this lady needs further medical services in he future, she may have to return to the same hospital. Hopefully Barnet council will be able to find suitable accommodation for them.

Jaxhog, once again, where does the report say this pair want to live in Barnet?

Bedblocking is a nightmare for the NHS, but it ain't the disabled who are the problem - it's council provision for the old.

A lot of the elderly don't have anywhere to go to when they're well enough to be out of hosp for what they were treated for but can't look after themselves or are demented, frail, you name it.

Hospitals are in a rock or a hard place - either boot Sid and Doris Bonkers out and leave them to starve/fall over again so they get readmitted pronto, or hang on at horrifying expense for months until the relations/council/a unicorn drops everything for life to give them 24 hour care. And some old people refuse to leave - a lot more than you'd think.

@Jaxhog the young woman is disabled You do realize that disability isnt a choice right?

And its hardly the fault of this young girl and her mum if you have overstretched yourself with a mortgage It was your choice so how about you take personal responsibility for your choices or is that only for people you perceive as being lesser than you.

You see this time and time again on MN There was a thread from someone a while back who was posting about a mortgage and asking if she needed to take out boiler insurance A few posters told her no , that is wasnt needed Too expensive.

And you just fucking know that the minute a tenant posts that shes been waiting weeks for her boiler to be fixed some of them would jump on the thread to say "well you are getting it for free I have to pay for mine"

Personal responsibility seems to be something only poorer people have to abide by.

Barnet won't house them as they are not it's responsibility. Unless they become street homeless, in which case there are ways to circumvent this rule.

Rowgtfc72 I don't necessarily disagree with you regarding DPOW, although I do believe it has got better over the years. Myself and both DD's have many outpatients appointments there, as well as Hull Royal Infirmary, Manchester Children's Hospital, Scunthorpe and Nottingham Queens Med (due to all 3 of us having several disabilities) and I can confidently say that we have always received fantastic care at DPOW both as outpatients and when accessing emergency care.

Much more to this than meets the eye I think.

She was in hospital a month before being fit for discharge. As a PP said. She must have been pretty ill.

Let’s say they do want to relocate to Barnet, why the assumption that it’s for money grabbing reasons.

Maybe they have family there and the Mother needs support.

Maybe there are better educational opportunities for the daughter.

Maybe they need specialist medical support that is available in Barnet and not Grimsby.

Not everybody is motivated by greed and even poor, disabled people of colour are allowed to desire a life that is livable rather than merely survivable, you know.

FingerPrint pleased someone can report good care from DPOW. We had the misfortune to sue the hospital over my father's death. Some departments are however good.
I think it's general problem is too many pen pushers and not enough nursing staff.

LuggsaysNotAWomen Very well said.

Rowgtfc72 I'm very sorry to hear that, you have my sympathies .

I completely agree with you though, too many pen pushers and not enough actual staff; nurses, Dr's and support staff alike. Unfortunately I think it is a similar story the country over

I'm from grimsby, all I'm going to say is good luck to them getting social housing here, there is nil left on the council housing website, the only housing options left are gainsborough and scatho and your allocatd housing benefit wouldnt even cover half of it.

Until the new estates are built there is literally no where for them to go social housing wise.

We have no adapted social housing free, hell we have no social housing free at all at the minute, if they came back here now they'd be looking at a private housing association house. Like the majority of disabled people here do (my bestfriend is one of them) or they move like a different friend of mine recently did. She was fully confined in a wheelchair due to EDS in a first floor flat, yet the council couldnt rehouse her due to the lack of adapted housing.

It's news to me that people are clamouring to live in Barnet

They're clamouring to live anywhere in the SE. There's just no social housing, I'm aware of people who are long term London residents with disabilities who have all their support network there being told their only option is Birmingham or Newcastle or a 15 year wait in temporary housing minimum. People are ending up in expensive, too small, insecure unsuitable for their disabilities private lets or sent hundreds of miles from everything they've ever known and vital support networks.

It sounds to me like these two women are trying to jump the queue for housing in the SE by creating this situation to use as leverage for housing priority. Especially given the daughter is now attending college in Barnet so they clearly never had any intention of returning to Lincolnshire, making long term commitments in Barnet.

I'm really glad the hospital has called their bluff and refused to involve Barnet Council. It's easy to say 'Oh just give them somewhere', but in reality that would be shoving people in Barnet with just as bad illnesses and disabilities who are homeless and in temporary accommodation further back in the queue purely because they've applied honestly rather than engineering a situation they don't think the authorities can say no to.

I also think it's incredibly smart of the NHS to realise it's cheaper to put up this one person than let the scam work and deal with the fallout. If they'd succeeded with this word would have spread. Every person with a disabled relative who wanted to live in London would be turning up at London Hospitals with a poorly relative then announcing they had nowhere to go at discharge. It would cause massive disruption if it spread, and this sort of scam spreads quickly.

I can’t tell you how many homes are sold while gran recovers from her broken hip. SS, and CM scrambling to then find suitable housing as everyone claims they can’t help due to work commitments.