to think the hospital should have kicked them out a long time ago?!

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www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/mum-daughter-live-hospital-15-13576615
21 year old woman and her mother have been living in a hospital room for 15 months!

"The couple lived in a ground-floor flat in Grimsby but another family moved in after they took up residence at the hospital"

What???

So they moved into the hospital??

"We don't know why or how she came to be admitted to Barnet hospital as appose to a more local hospital."

That's probably the key!

@PMSwithacockinmydress eh? Someone can have a disability and NOT meet criteria for services under the Care Act and similarly, someone can not have a disability and meet Care Act criteria. I didn't say she was faking the disability she has, just that it may not be considered a 'significant disability'.

Could be all sorts of reasons though.

A couple of years ago I ended up having an almost three week stint in a hospital 200 miles from home because I was taken suddenly ill on holiday. For all sorts of reasons, they wouldn’t transfer me to a hospital nearer home, even though it was a massive ball ache for me and them.

It’s not fair to cast aspersions on a situation that we know nothing about.

Wow, I've just been on Google Maps, Barnet is 3.5 hours from Grimsby.
I had assumed she was at Barnet as it was the closest that met her specific needs, but surely there'd be a closer hospital than that?
Is Barnet a specialist hospital?

Maybe Diana Princess of Wales Hospital Grimsby wasn't able to give her the care she needs/needed . DPOW is a decent hospital however it is a small hospital. Maybe the hospital she was taken to/went to was much more suited to her care needs.

Oh didn't think of that Luggs, could well have been nearest hospital when she was taken ill.

Maybe they think a flat or house in Barnet would be nicer than one in Grimbsy. But I expect there are fewer available as they're a whole lot more expensive.

Whatever their need, I do think it's a huge cheek when state supported people think they can just choose a nicer place to live - at our expense. I'm sure many of us with mortgages would like to do this too. But we don't have that choice.

I was going to say about seeing situations on DIY SOS where people had to stay in hospital until suitable accommodation was found, and that was the reason they were called in to renovate the home

Where does it say they want to stay in London?

Sleepyblueocean it doesn't. It also doesn't say a lot of other things.

There is clearly lots left out. All people on this thread can do is speculate.

@Jaxhog Would you be happy to take the disability that goes with it then So you can have that perceived choice?

The point is, we don't know because the most of things that have been reported regarding this story are headline grabbing, mouth frothing crap.
Disabled = check
Tax payers = check
Benefits = check

We don't know the full and real story because that won't sell papers or get clicks onto links for online papers.

I'm positive there is more to this story than meets the eye, the fact that some people can't read between the lines and see the 'reporting' of this story in the manner that it has been reported. Instead people judge before having all the facts, media isn't the font of all knowledge and should be viewed with a critical mind.

Is Barnet a part of The Royal Free? I know we have children in our area (East Anglia) that are treated by places like Bristol and Birmingham, especially where the child has a complex condition despite the fact that we have a major teaching hospital nearby. It is cheaper and quicker to send the patient to the specialist than it is to take the specialist to the patient surely? There is so much more to this story than is being reported.

DLA used to be stopped after the recipient had spent 28 days or more in hospital.

So did carers allowance because the "rule" was its the NHS that is caring for them.

Despite the fact the carer still has to find the money to come into the hospital and do some of it.

I think more carers should do it to rule If the rule says its the NHS that does the caring so let it be!

i wonder if some of the disability activists on twitter have seen it

I see what youre saying but I don't think I'd the the risk with someone I cared about.

Exactly @BarbarianMum And the powers that be know that.

As well as ppl like @Jaxhog who like to have someone that they can feel superior to.

The government know that people who care for relatives or friends do it from love and devotion - that’s now they can get away with treating them so badly because they know no matter what people will continue until the hit breaking point. And they they will continue because they have no choice

The article I read stated that they are bedblocking because they are in Barnet and what to be homed there but are registered in Grimsby. Grimsby have said if they return there, they will be re-homed by them.

But Grimsby nowhere suggests that they have accommodation lined up for them. They clearly cannot just shove the daughter in the nearest B&B: she is going to need accommodation that is adapted for her wheelchair, and almost inevitably things like grab rails, an adapted toilet, and possibly even a hoist. I suspect the problem is that the hospital can't discharge them without knowing that suitable accommodation is available, and Grimsby won't do anything about even beginning to look for suitable accommodation unless and until they move back to the area.

The mother really needs to be referred to a feisty legal aid lawyer who can get this in front of a judge who can order Lincolnshire to stop being arseholes and sort this out.

Lincolnshire saying “return there” makes me laugh too. They have no guarantee that if they return there that anything is available for them. I’d be digging my heels in too

It would be different if they could say...we have a seocifally adapted ground floor property..

They are not....just “return to us” and the risk of nowhere to live.

Whatever their need, I do think it's a huge cheek when state supported people think they can just choose a nicer place to live - at our expense. I'm sure many of us with mortgages would like to do this too. But we don't have that choice.

If you seriously think, Jaxhog, that people in council housing can just demand a nicer place to live in and will get it, you're incredibly naïve and need to educate yourself urgently.

Where does it say that this pair want a nicer place to live? So far as I can see, they simply need somewhere to live, full stop. It's news to me that people are clamouring to live in Barnet, it's hardly Knightsbridge or Mayfair.

The hospital will be continuing to house them because the daughter has disabilities then she has care needs that aren’t guaranteed if they leave because they have no home to go to yet.It’s shocking that neither local authority will step up and house these people appropriately. I imagine if Grimsby council said here is your flat you can move in tomorrow they wouldn’t be trying to live in a hospital which must be bloody inconvenient for them.