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To believe there is no such thing as a female penis?

542 replies

Shriek · 10/11/2018 15:15

Ppl with penis raping, yet called women.
WTAF! Gangs of ppl with penis stamping on man's head, referred to as 'women'
Wtf is going on, has the world gone mad?

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JAPAB · 10/11/2018 20:03

SDTGisAnEvilWolefGenius No, @JAPAB - it is most certainly NOT implicit in the OP. It is not even remotely implied in the OP - and saying it is makes you look truly desperate to find something to be offended at!

I'm not offended.

If someone asks WTAF is going on when someone who stamps on the head of another is called a woman, are they or are they not implying that no woman would commit a violent assault like this?

And do they ask a similar question when hearing the likes of Myra Hindley and Rose West being referred to as women?

Shriek Woman rapes - impossible - the law says so

Does it? The rape laws make no mention of sex or gender, only body parts. Other parts of the law say that women can have penises. You don't have to agree with the law of course, but not sure what you said is legally accurate.

Shriek · 10/11/2018 20:05

Rape = penis
Penis = male
Unless you think a penis is feminine? @JAPAB

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Rufusthebewilderedreindeer · 10/11/2018 20:08

Other parts of the law say that women can have penises

Linky please

I thought it said that people with a GRC should be 'treated' as the gender they identify as

But i would be very interested in the bit of the law that STATES that some women have a penis

Really interested...not sure i can convay how interested i am in it

Rufusthebewilderedreindeer · 10/11/2018 20:08

shriek

Have you seen japab around the boards?

Aeroflotgirl · 10/11/2018 20:09

The law is not above biology, a penis is a male organ of reproduction. Where in an anatomical representation of a female can you find a penis,nowhere!

Shriek · 10/11/2018 20:09

And no *JAPAB. I know you keep inisiting this, but that doesn't make it true. I clearly state 'being called a woman, you can refuse to see the obvious intent if you want but I have now cleared up any misunderstanding for you, as previously, that I wasn't trying g to stated women can't cause harm.
You seem to just be wriggling and trying to tell me what I am saying,but you can't do that. You saw the thread title female penis
You are trying to re-write my words and you cant

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TigerDrankAllTheWaterInTheTap · 10/11/2018 20:09

You're misreading the OP, JAPAB. What almost everyone on this thread wants is accuracy in the crime statistics. If biological males commit a crime we want it recorded as a male crime, not a female one. That could hardly be clearer in the OP.

Rufusthebewilderedreindeer · 10/11/2018 20:09

If someone asks WTAF is going on when someone who stamps on the head of another is called a woman, are they or are they not implying that no woman would commit a violent assault like this?

Try rereading the OP

I think the magic word you missed is penis

Getoffthetableplease · 10/11/2018 20:12

Well Shriek for a start the police force, the nhs, social services and schools are all being advised by Stonewall, Mermaids and the like. It's becoming more and more common place for the official take to be 'acceptance with out exception'.

JAPAB · 10/11/2018 20:12

Shriek My own ideology on these matters hjas nothing to do with what the law says, and how accurate someone is being when they claim the law says that women cannot rape.

Anyway, I know that people who have an XX do not have penises. The labels we do or do not use to denote such people is another matter. Traditionalists have their view, others have theirs.

JacquesHammer · 10/11/2018 20:13

“The Act in question JAPAB states:-

*(1) A person (A) commits an offence if—

(a) he intentionally penetrates the vagina, anus or mouth of another person (B) with his penis”

See the word HE and HIS.

Shriek · 10/11/2018 20:13

Being goady too @JAPAB nasty
No I don't know who @JAPAB is. That's all good for me, as I am not liking the way @JAPAB communicates.

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Shriek · 10/11/2018 20:14

Could it say her penis Hmm

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SheCameFromGreeceSheHadaThirst · 10/11/2018 20:14

You are trying to re-write my words and you cant

Trying to twist language to fulfil an agenda - who'd have thunk?! 🤷‍♀️

Rufusthebewilderedreindeer · 10/11/2018 20:15

shriek

Japab thinks they are good with the words

Grin

Ill leave it there...

DisrespectfulAdultFemale · 10/11/2018 20:15

I have seen Japab post on other threads and know to ignore their posts, OP.

SheCameFromGreeceSheHadaThirst · 10/11/2018 20:19

Japab thinks they are good with the words

That's cheered me up no end, thank you 😄

Shriek · 10/11/2018 20:20

So now you are separating your ideology from the law when this was the entire basis of your argument moment ago.
So I see now that you will change your rhetoric to fit your arguments when the basis of your insistence turns out not to be true.
Do you worry about the death's of women and children, and recognise how much women need protected spaces? By that, I mean safe from penises.

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Shriek · 10/11/2018 20:22

Thanks for the heads up on @JAPAB

they ? seem quite transparent

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Aeroflotgirl · 10/11/2018 20:23

If abiological woman has a penis, it did not appear at birth, it is a pseudo penis,that is either a silicone one, or one made in an operating theatre.

JAPAB · 10/11/2018 20:27

Rufusthebewilderedreindeer OK so why not just ask WTAF is happening when people with penises are being referred to as women? Why mention the spuerflous detail that they were stamping on someone's head?

If someone gives several factors in their objeciont to a person being referred to as a woman, then it is reasonable to infer that the mentioned factors have a relevence to this objection.

SophiaLovesSummer · 10/11/2018 20:27

spannablue Sat 10-Nov-18 18:58:37

'Boring rehash of transphobia'

Have you any idea of how fucking offensive that is? Women expressing real and valid concerns about safe spaces, about needs being met, about figures being recorded accurately (both to reflect relaity and also to ensure needs met) instantly labelled as 'transphobic' and so casually just dismissed by you?

I have to remind myself this is the internet and you could be anyone but I'll take your word for it that you are a: female; b: lesbian. If you are either of those, let alone both (as all of my lesbian friends have suffered grievously one way and another) then I'm stunned you're so dismissive of women's real and valid concerns.

I've been sexually assaulted as an 8 year old girl; a 12 year old girl; a 13 year old girl; a fifteen year old girl; and a 20-something women - each of those by a man.

If men [male bodied humans with penises who surf through on the flimsy and dangerous premise of 'self-ID'] are allowed into female changing rooms then I will no longer be able to go swimming; if they are allowed into female only roles - IE I ask for a female chaperone but under this insanity of simply spouting the words 'I feel like a woman therefore I AM a woman' - then I won't be able to access those services. These things terrify me and will very literally change my life and you have the audacity to dismiss them with a tinkling 'boring rehash of transphobia'?? How very fucking dare you.

DC1 has a friend who is trans and currently crowd funding for surgery. I am doing all I can to support their journey, I recognise their struggle and d'you know what? They recognise mine. And in a million years would they dismiss my real, lived, PTSD causing, multiple sexual assaults by men with penises - and their heinous legacy - as 'boring transphobia'.

My experience of actual trans people (IE genuine GD, not someone seeking to use to self ID to access spaces for nefarious reasons) is that they HATE the self ID plans and they HATE what is being done to them and their genuine fight via this utter BS - and that INCLUDES you dismissing me, and my uber valid and well grounded fears of men abusing self ID and then abusing women and girls, as 'boring'.

The attack on women's rights aside, the truly devastating thing here is that the people I know - remember, genuine transpeople who have been beaten up simply for being themselves - are also too scared to speak up now, so pervasive is the kind of abuse that you are meting out to me and others here simply for voicing our concerns.

It is as sickening as it is insane. You are as offensive in your trite dismissal as you are ignorant of the reality of life as a vulnerable girl/woman - so forgive me if I'm gonna take your claim to be a woman with a massive pinch of salt.

Shriek · 10/11/2018 20:27

Very Angry at institions like police NHS and so on removing protections without balanced investigation. They are not allowed to just change the rules without proper legal basis, oh, that's clearly a load of shite

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Rufusthebewilderedreindeer · 10/11/2018 20:28

japab

Its ok i said you were good with the words

Rufusthebewilderedreindeer · 10/11/2018 20:28

Oh wait

Ive reread...i didnt say that at all

Oops