Hauled into school because dd had no breakfast

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Got called into school as dd(13) felt unwell and it transpired she hadn't eaten. I don't encourage her to eat breakfast although I don't stop her - she rarely gets up early enough to eat it during the week. I honestly thought the school would be sensible about this but what an absolute waste of everyone's time. I thought once I explained that she wasn't neglected or malnourished we could go on our way. Instead a load of hand wringing, unsubstantiated and unscientific bollocks about how important breakfast is and how clearly this is the reason dd felt light headed, even though she hasn't eaten breakfast before school the entire five weeks and this is the first day she has felt unwell.

For context - she is overweight. I'm not going to force another 300-400 calories that she doesn't desire or need at the only point of the day that she doesn't seem to be starving hungry! I make her a cup of tea each morning, she drinks plenty of water. Her house is first for lunch so she eats at 12ish!

It's half term next week and I'm not sure whether I should say anything to the school tomorrow or just let it lie.

Nah, you did no such thing, Lost, you just assumed because people don't tow your line or have a view other than yours that they didn't read or can't understand. How very arrogant and presumptuous of you, but again, highly entertaining, a sentiment others have expressed, too, so by all means, carry on .

I’m going to get a response defending your understanding. Before you respond. Trust me you can’t begin to understand. If you did then you wouldn’t be so shocked by an omission of a child skipping breakfast being a safeguarding concern.

@donttalk that’s the issue, it’s not my view. How can we argue what is factual?
It’s the law. Whether you agree with it or not.

So the arrogance and ignorance is coming from you I’m afraid. Ignoring the facts.

Presuming the law. Interesting assumption.

Well, considering you're a stranger on the internet, I think I'll refrain from trusting you, I'm not in the custom of trusting internet sprites. It's a MN thread, people have agendas, like yours. Again, entertainment akin to watching a cat chase its own tail or a dog barking at its own reflection.

No, presuming others haven't read the thread, for those who are hard of thinking.

donttalk It's TOE the line!

Ok let’s start over. What have I said that you find so absurd and presumptious?

I completely agree that my opinion is totally presumptious and can totally disregarded.

What cannot be ignored is the factual information given by OP, not my opinion.

-skipping breakfast will be logged as a safeguarding concern.

-DD skipping breakfast for 5 weeks after gaining weight.

-OP school had a safeguarding concern meeting with relevant staff present, so an issue has already been raised.

-OP mentioning DD is overweight, which I’m not sure why it has relevance.

Why is that so shocking?

Excuse me, eddie, English is not my native language. Thank you for the gentle reminder.

Actually, I didn't address you personally, Lost, when I first commented on this thread but it appears from reading it you have massively, if entertainingly, me-railed it. Again, carry on.

I agree with the 2 professionals and agree that there is definitely red flags here. The ones that are mocking clearly have no experience in this field. I too work in a safeguarding role with children, and this is the kind of thing we look at when building a picture. I often find that people on mumsnet who mock others over safeguarding issues and someone being "pfb" are the ones most likely to be neglectful and just an overall crap parent themselves.

@donttalk funny you didn’t answer my question? 😊

@donttalk funny you didn’t answer my question? 😊

Because I'm finding you a bit cuckoo, Lost. And any response I give will be you rounding back on me or anyone else who doesn't suit the massive me-rail you've created on this thread. I never addressed you personally in the first place, that was your doing. I find when people like this come onto threads and hijack them to suit their own ends, it's fairly pointless to engage with them and more fun to watch them chase their own tails in indignation.

I often find that people on mumsnet who mock others over safeguarding issues and someone being "pfb" are the ones most likely to be neglectful and just an overall crap parent themselves.

Many posters aren't parents at all .

This is the thread that keeps on giving!

I said most likely to be neglectful, do you need to be a parent to do that? Are you OK?

@donttalk you sound like a moron now. ‘Suit their own ends’ of course nothing I have mentioned is factual.

You still can’t answer the question. Hmmm I wonder why?

dontall - are you now saying you’re not a parent?

Anyway regardless - what is your point on this thread? What do you want people to say? “Leave teens to it / eat whatever you want / sod the school / mock anyone who actually gives a damn..,” What exactly?

Why no, I said that many people aren't parents. One doesn't need an agenda or a point to post on MN, either.

You're only insulting people @dontall and mocking because this has clearly hit a nerve. As it happens, a team of professionals at the school were concerned, and several professionals on here are concerned. So I'd say your opinion is irrelevant really.

I think it’s safe to say donttalk doesn’t understand the issue seeing as they can’t address the factual information in this thread, instead choosing to insult and mock.

@Lostinlondon999 Calling another poster a 'moron'?? Isn't that kind of language a bit... let's say ... unexpected, from someone who appears to be otherwise very hot on what's right and wrong?

Oh because donttalk’s use of language was totally acceptable towards me? Taste of their own medicine.

We’re all adults on here, whether right or wrong, it is our choice, unfortunately some children don’t have that luxury.

Btw I’m not hot on what’s right and wrong.
I just care about the safety of children.

Ps I said sound like a moron, did not call her/him a moron!

*I actually am the most empathetic person where I work. I have a lot of time for certain parents. A lot of the time I am called to speak to them as they get a ‘vibe’ from me. Their words, that I actually care. Which I genuinely do. When working with children you must always work above and beyond.

Working with parents like OP is very disheartening.*

Bigging yourself up a bit there, @LostinLondon and I certainly get a 'vibe' from you which is that you're absolutely bonkers and totally unprofessional.

So if the OP is an example of one of the worst kinds of parents you meet, you must work with some pretty easy parents.