Theresa May needs to resign!

TM should revoke A50 or call a referendum and then resign. She would only be implementing the will of the people after all. See yougov.co.uk/news/2018/09/12/how-public-feel-about-brexit-options/ and www.politico.eu/article/brexit-second-referendum-remain-would-win-eu-survey-shows/ for evidence.

Wow politics would get interesting if TMay threw in the towel. I have very begrudged admiration/fondness for her. I can't think of a single one of her male counterparts (the prominent ones, anyway) who would have lasted this long. That's what I resent about her, too. Any of the prominent BeLeavers as PM would have caused govt implosion & meltdown by now & implosion is where lies a decent path to revoking A50.

How do you get 17,410,742 to be nearly 18 million?

Yes, it looks like it's not only this thread, OP

Most people don't seem to agree with you that anyone else would do a better job.

Magic Brexit Maths.

Soon to be taught in primary schools across the country. Expect massive leaps in standards to appear in performance league tables.

Because of abstention, only 37% of UK voters actually voted for Brexit.

And even less voted Remain!

Also coming soon,

New geography where the UK is moved to just off the Australian and America coast - simulataneously.

New biology, where women no longer exist.

New history where the British Empire never collasped

New politics where UK democracy is dictated by the US President.

New physics where the sun and moon revolve around Kent.

I'll refrain from commenting on new RE.

And even less voted Remain!

Yes, but considering that it was a major move to the country, with serious consequences, you'd expect the government to require bigger support for it. Such as over 50% of all registered voters.

This thread is priceless.

Rarely do you see quite so many Brexit bullshit statements in such a short space.

My personal favourite is that the solution to the border is for Ireland to Leave the EU too. 😂

The arrogance of Leavers never ceases to amaze me!

OP do you never stop to question the fact that every single comment you make has absolutely no substance?

That everything you say is a soundbite?

Do you have any practical solutions to the situation that involve something more substantial than 'rah, rah, rah, we won you lost'?

May going now will solve nothing, nor will an election. The Brexiteers lied and the Northern Ireland border issue is unsolvable as long as Northern Ireland stays in the Union. Disraeli was wrestling with the same problem over 100 years ago.
The question is though, is Theresa May actually a very clever politician who planned this all along?
She gave Boris Johnson and David Davis very important jobs which they screwed up.
Nearly everyone is finally realising that the promised post Brexit heaven was imaginary. Solution - Europe isn't as bad as we thought, have another referendum and forget the whole thing.

Good post foggety. Very good post.

I have wondered same myself but then I look at the stuff she says and the people around her and I just think 'Nah. I might wish that she was that clever and cunning and had a big old trick right up her sleeve but sadly, nah'

I hope you're right though - really I do.

Well that's screwed my marriage, dh stays here but I have to move to France. He'll be gutted - he's really quite fond of me. Maybe we should have voted as a couple

I think the OP is somebody garnering opinions for an outside source

People waste time replying to Op. Brexit is like some mad cult.

I agree Portia. Fair enough if that's how they want to go about it although there are more honest ways.
Also true Iheart. Some people you can engage with, some you can't. This lot you definitely can't.

Well it has cost me my future. I'll never vote Tory again. They can just rely on the ever decreasing elderly vote.

Can anyone really be serious in suggesting that the solution is for ROI to leave the EU as well?

That's the main statement that makes me wonder who OP is working for surely nobody could be that stupid about the Irish border.

Brexit is like some mad cult.

So is this: www.ihearteu.co.uk/

EU Christmas bauble anyone? some socks for DH stocking maybe?

Can anyone really be serious in suggesting that the solution is for ROI to leave the EU as well?
I suppose it’s the same people who think that Dublin is in the uk.
Or that NI isn’t part of the Uk.
Or that any ENGLISH can just walk in and ask for an Irish passport.
People that basically think the RoI is still part of the uk and should do as we tell them.....

Applauds RedToothBrush Fri 19-Oct-18 10:39:05

Not a lot else to say.

So, OP, could you explain more clearly what is your solution to the Irish question?

You say, Ireland should leave the EU. Slight problem with that is that Ireland don't want to leave the EU and the Republic of Ireland is a sovereign state. They don't think it's in their interests to leave the EU so they're not going to.

So what do we do then? Do we try to force them? Invade them? Do we think they should agree that they've just been playing at being a sovereign state for nearly 100 years and that actually, really, their job is to do whatever suits the British?

Oh dear OP. Did you not notice the look on Johnson's face on the morning after the referendum when he realised that he'd opened Pandora's Box and would have to deliver on all of the fantasy promises that he'd made? Cameron ducked out and there was a stampede of Conservative ministers running away from Conservative HQ until some other poor sop had been persuaded to become PM. For possibly the first time in history, nobody wanted the job - and nobody wants it now either as it comes with a poisoned chalice.

Promising unicorns, persuading the population to vote for unicorns, demanding unicorns as the will of the people, blaming the EU, remainers and the civil service when unicorns fail to materialise - will still not make unicorns appear.

And while the Brexit voters are stamping their feet at their front doors, looking forlornly down the road for their promised delivery, the hard Brexiters are ransacking the house and running out of the back door with the loot.

On 29th March, the UK tears up 750+ agreements that it has with the EU and the rest of the world - and until something else is put in place, the UK will have no agreements with anyone on anything such as food, transport, medicines, security, customs, standards and so on.

Having slammed the door at 11pm, the UK will be left standing in the rain in its underpants hoping that someone will take pity.

Thing is. Some of us remainers would have put up with a Norway type solution. It fulfils the ‘mandate’ to leave the EU, we get back control, easier to limit migration, minimises economic damage. The Brexiters pushing for hard exit are going to end up with no Brexit. They haven’t even bothered to apply their existing rights and emergency brake immigration, more than 2 years on! Let alone prepare in any way for the type of leaving they say they want.

I am a remainer and would actually vote for Corbyn if an election tomorrow. Never voted labour before but the conservatives have well and truly messed up. They were never going to get a deal as most people who voted remain knew. However with the clock ticking it seems ridiculous to have an election now but if there is any way to call a halt to this ridiculous situation then an election may be the way. The conservatives will have lost loads of votes from people like me who used to support them and don't now.