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To avoid women who do not like women

276 replies

abacucat · 18/10/2018 10:54

If another women thinks women in general are bitchy, gossipy and much prefer men as she thinks they are more straightforward, then no I am not going to want to talk to you or spend time with you. If you show contempt for women in general, why would I want to talk to you?

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Gromance02 · 18/10/2018 11:45

I generally prefer male company. I don't hate women. I just prefer the way that men are. I can't stand the banality of some women - stating the obvious - 'oh, is that a new top....it's so cute' or commenting on food choices. Yawn. Most men would never be so dull to talk about food or clothing.

JacquesHammer · 18/10/2018 11:45

abacucat

So basically you would assume someone who spends more time with males or has more male friends is a woman-hater?

AmIRightOrAMeringue · 18/10/2018 11:46

To give a different perspective...I dont dislike women but I do find it easier to male male friends on a superficial level. I have good female friends but they tend to be ones who were forced to spend time with me at school or uni! I have tried to make mum friends but I am just not great at making friends, I find small talk very painful and it never seems to get past the superficial level.

Most friends in the last few years have been male. I can just take the piss out of them or be blunt with them and then we seem to be friends. It doesn't seem to work the same way with women - not because I don't like them but I'm not sure why. Maybe they don't like my approach, or maybe I'm too scared of upsetting them (and it's a biological fact that women process emotions differently to men) and I clam up and act unnatural

I hang around with a lot of couples and mixed groups and always have done through school etc so don't have xperienxes of single sex groups of friends.
So some women who don't know me very well and don't know all my female friends when they see me in certain situations (usually work related) will say I don't like women, as I hang around with the men. This isn't true - I do find it harder to make friends but this doesn't mean I don't have women friends or don't want to.

When I've done those brain quizzes I've always come out as having a typically male brain and always did subjects at school that males tended to prefer like maths and always chose sport over other options which hardly any of the girls did so maybe this formed how I make friendships as there just weren't many girls in my position (for instance I was the only girl in my physics a level class)

Maybe this isn't true for most people, and some people are friends with the opposite sex for some strange reasons like they hate their own sex

But maybe there are lots of people just like me who feel they have more in common with one gender in some situations but don't have anything against their own gender at all. It sounds to me like you're judging who other people are friends with - which I don't see why you care about? How does it affect you unless they are nasty to you?

peardropexplodes · 18/10/2018 11:47

Why would you think other women care if you don't want to talk to them? I doubt they give a shit. You sound big headed and exactly like the kind of woman they would want to avoid anyway to be honest!

Conseulabananahammock · 18/10/2018 11:47

jaqueshammer that's exactly what shes doing. I prefer male company, doesn't mean I don't have female friends or that I hate women. Very bizarre comment to make to be fair.

abacucat · 18/10/2018 11:47

Jacques More time is far too vague. If a woman had only male friends and no female ones, I would assume either internalised misogyny, or past experiences e.g. with her mother, which means she has issues with women.

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Gossipygirl · 18/10/2018 11:48

I don't usually voice such a strong opinion but OP your replies seem to be trying to get a reaction. People like who they like, for many different reasons. You're stereotyping a group of people with no context or reason.
All my best friends are women.
But on a social event I would prefer men's company for their banter. It's less complicated and generally more fun for me as it suits my sense of humour
I have a great relationship with my mother and wasn't bullied or any other issues it's just down to personality. Nor do I 'hate' women.

Perhaps you should move over to the feminism threads Hmm

serbska · 18/10/2018 11:48

Well yes. Because as a woman they probably wouldn't like me would they!

I often think if you have THAT many issues in your friendships so as to write off 50% the population, the issue is probably you not women.

MenaMecca · 18/10/2018 11:49

I'm always the girl with the group consisting of male friends. It's just easier. I can't relate to most female group conversations. I have female friends, yes, but not like a big group of female friends. A male friend told me it's because I think like a guy, whatever that means.

FFSFFSFFS · 18/10/2018 11:49

I am always amazed at those who say men don't gossip or back stab - they really do

This. I have worked with so many truly awful men.

abacucat · 18/10/2018 11:49

AmIRight Our female friends take the piss out of one another too.

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LisaSimpsonsbff · 18/10/2018 11:49

I think the 'I prefer men they're so much easier' is a very normal stage for women to go through in their late teens/early twenties. I know I did, although I look back and cringe. Most women grow out of it as they grow up.

blueskiesandforests · 18/10/2018 11:49

I do think that people who assert that boys and men are more straightforward/ honest/ don't gossip/ don't backstab is either astonishingly unobservant, or only pays attention to a very small number of individuals. There are people of both sexes who backstab and gossip, and boys really aren't more straightforward than girls (as a mother of both quite apart from thinking of peers, colleagues, public figures etc etc).

abacucat · 18/10/2018 11:50

Think like a guy is an incredibly misogynistic statement.

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DieAntword · 18/10/2018 11:50

I generally prefer male company. I don't hate women. I just prefer the way that men are. I can't stand the banality of some women - stating the obvious - 'oh, is that a new top....it's so cute' or commenting on food choices. Yawn. Most men would never be so dull to talk about food or clothing.

U wot mate?

LisaSimpsonsbff · 18/10/2018 11:51

A male friend told me it's because I think like a guy, whatever that means.

It means he's a sexist who thinks he can make you feel special by telling you you're the one exception to his general misogyny. You're not. 'You're not like other girls' is never a compliment.

Juells · 18/10/2018 11:52

I went to an all-girls school, and never encountered the bitchiness and nastiness that some women describe. I like and get on with men, but my closest friends are female. I know exactly the kind of person that the OP means. Of course there are other reasons why some women get on better with men - just as some men get on better with women - but there's a certain type of woman who will cheerfully join in with the 'all women are bitches, or silly, or ridiculous' mantra to underscore how special they are. It's hyper-competitiveness. 😁

Conseulabananahammock · 18/10/2018 11:52

JacquesMore time is far too vague. If a woman had only male friends and no female ones, I would assume either internalised misogyny, or past experiences e.g. with her mother, which means she has issues with women.

Or actually we just can't be arsed with high maintenance people male or female.
You sound judgemental and actually someone I would likely cross the road to avoid.
Why does it bother you so much? Do you think we are all trying to steal men or something.
People like who they like. No judgements needed

MadeleineMaxwell · 18/10/2018 11:52

Where did I say I liked all women? That would be ridiculous to like 52% of the population just because they are women. But there are many many brilliant women as well.

Right! And there are plenty of women on here explaining how they have a few female friends but lots of male ones.

So they too like some women but not others. Pretty much like everyone else, including you.

LisaSimpsonsbff · 18/10/2018 11:52

Perhaps you should move over to the feminism threads hmm

Are you one of those women who thinks feminist is an insult?

blueskiesandforests · 18/10/2018 11:54

"You're not like other girls" (or boys, or people, or I've never met anyone like you) are pick up lines.

sawdustformypony · 18/10/2018 11:54

Nicely put Firesuit.

JacquesHammer · 18/10/2018 11:56

More time is far too vague. If a woman had only male friends and no female ones, I would assume either internalised misogyny, or past experiences e.g. with her mother, which means she has issues with women

Assumptions are very often incorrect though.

I did a uni course where I was the only female. I then worked in an arena where I was the only female. I then took a career break and went back and, yup, only female.

It’s about opportunity of making friends rather than anything else to be honest

lurkingfromhome · 18/10/2018 11:56

So many awful female stereotypes here. If you think that "women" just talk vacuously about clothes and celebrity gossip all the time you're possibly just mixing with the wrong women.

tiggerkid · 18/10/2018 11:59

I have Aspergers and I have always found men more straightforward to work with.

I don't have Aspergers but also have generally found men more straightforward to work with. I have female friends and also female colleagues I also get on with but but, to be honest, my female friends are kind of "masculine" if I can put it that way. Not in the way they dress but more in the way they are.

This isn't an offence to any women at all but I personally think that our interactions with people are shaped by the experiences we have. If you had more positive experiences with women, then, of course, you will be more open and positive towards them. If your experiences with women have largely been negative, then your idea of women is different. And vice versa. There are plenty of women, who don't like men and plenty of men, who prefer female friendships but nobody seems to say anything about that.