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To be fed up beyond belief with the trans activists

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snapnfarter · 17/10/2018 16:40

I'm so sick of the bigotry now. Surely these people just want to have a piss in peace without being hassled?
What rights is it exactly that the trans activists are shit scared that women are going to lose out on?
I wish they'd all just be quiet and let others live their lives how they see fit without reprisal or judgement from narrow minded idiots.
I honestly feel that this debate is just a platform for the bigots to congregate to attack a minority because we all know what attaching ethnic minorities, gays, lesbians etc is just not acceptable. How is this any different?

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PositivelyPERF · 19/10/2018 01:22

paffuto

I hope that’s a nice feminine smile and not a manly grin. 😉

What can I say? I grew up through the troubles and my NI humour helped me survive that crap. I have to laugh at the current bullshite, because I know that truth will out and the gangsters will eventually back off.

categed · 19/10/2018 04:36

ttps://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/4thwavenow.com/2017/12/07/gender-dysphoria-is-not-one-thing/amp/

An interesting read about different types of body dysmorphia. I am not sure of it's legitimacy but it made me think about it in a different way especially autogynephilic.

AmazingGrace16 · 19/10/2018 05:50

I am a rape survivor although have ptsd. I'm also currently pregnant. I've requested no male health care practitioners at the birth. I don't want to have vaginal examinations done by a male. I don't want a male to see me in a state of undress or looking into my vagina. I don't want to be battling anxieties or having flashbacks when trying to give birth.
My request has been granted and the female hcps have assured me they will protect my space.

Why should my rights to this come second to a male who identifies as a female. With self id it could be as easy as them declaring they are a female even if they look very male and as such a male could access that safe space.

Why should I be put in a position where ptsd flares up all for the protection of someone who is identifying at that moment as a female.

IFeelSorryForMillie · 19/10/2018 06:00

The independent has made an out of court settlement, to fair play to women. For the defamatory article it published.

The article a poster has been linking to and repeating on this thread.

mobile.twitter.com/fairplaywomen/status/1053033005021847553

FlyingMonkeys · 19/10/2018 06:08

My Dd is 20, she and her friends are very anti porn (in the dehumanization of women), they don't like the current normalisation of anal sex (unless you want to participate), they don't appreciate that females are getting 'boxed in' more than they have been in their parents generations.. These are the current female generation whose voices are being swept aside by middle aged 'right on folk, and 12yr olds who are being fed the 'new way of thought'. None of them state they want to alienate anyone.. But they also don't wish to share their teenage feminine experiences with middle aged men who want to share 'their feminine experiences' with them.

FrankUnderwoodsWife · 19/10/2018 06:17

I had a conversation yesterday with a very senior man at a bank.
A man who works for the bank, self identies as a woman 2 x a week, has separate business cards with his female name when he is a “woman” and uses the female loos.
The muslim women who work for this bank, objected vociferously to this situation, and were advised by HR to use the disabled loos!!!!

If anyone believes the above is ok, you are off your fucking rocker.
A) why do the feelings of 1 trump the actual religious beliefs of another?
B) Being told to use the disabled loos when you are an adult human female is grossly insulting to them and to the disabled members of the workforce
C) sets back the rights of BOTH parties mentioned in B because of the desires of the adult human male wanting to wear a pretty dress and makeup with NO intention of transitioning by chopping off his cock, trumps both other parties affected because “thems his rights”

THIS is why the whole self id debate is an absolute farce

Cronesquerness · 19/10/2018 07:21

Activism in this instance is referring to the loss of women's rights, eg access to safe spaces for women only. If men become able to decide to change their 'gender' daily or how ever often they wish in order to abuse women some more [smash our skulls in for money as is reported in a post today, sexually abuse women in prison, abuse children and have the media report that a WOMAN did it...] then many of us fear for our own safety and the safety of our daughters and all females to come. When I was in a women's refuge with my children I felt safe and felt that I could keep them safe, if my violent ex partner was able to declare himself 'a women today' then I have no doubt that he would have coerced his way inside and killed us.

Rufusthebewilderedreindeer · 19/10/2018 07:48

God you’re fucking thick

How do you know who they are calling thick?

Ive wanted to say that on many a thread, but if i put a name on it then i guess it would count as a personal attack

Rufusthebewilderedreindeer · 19/10/2018 07:49

Have they been on this thread before?

DisrespectfulAdultFemale · 19/10/2018 07:52

Monroe Bergdorf described MN at a Radicalisation Portal

Ah, so that's the origin of the Radicalisation Portal meme.

DisrespectfulAdultFemale · 19/10/2018 07:55

How do you know who they are calling thick?

The post was by a poster who did not have the courage to use a name or quote a poster. Cowardly.

Rufusthebewilderedreindeer · 19/10/2018 07:55

frank

A friend was telling me about a work colleague of hers a long time ago who was trans (related to someone coming into where we work now, we weren't discussing it randomly) going to call her beth for ease of writing

She said that pre op beth wanted to use the ladies, one woman didnt want beth to but a man also said he didn't want them in the gents either

My friend said ' i dont know why she had a problem with beth using the ladies'

And she seemed very surprised when i said ' i dont know why the bloke had a problem with beth using the loo'

paffuto · 19/10/2018 08:06

Rufus, yes some women are shocked when we question the men's feelings. It's only women / girls who are expected to move over!! Infuriating!!

ohreallyohreallyoh · 19/10/2018 08:14

The muslim women who work for this bank, objected vociferously to this situation, and were advised by HR to use the disabled loos!!!!

See, this is exactly the issue, isn't it? Why couldn't the transwoman use the disabled loos? And what happens when the transwoman and/or Muslim women are using the disabled loos and a genuinely disabled person needs to use it? Why has one minority had to move over for the sake of another and a third minority ignored all together? Just move on over ladies, your needs mean sod all.

FekkoTheLawyer · 19/10/2018 08:16

Penis trumps all. Get over it.

paffuto · 19/10/2018 08:23

Yep, everyone move over. Women, girl guides, schoolgirls, disabled women, muslim women, sportswomen. C'mon everyone, move over. If you don't you're bigots and transphobes obviously, without question!!!

FekkoTheLawyer · 19/10/2018 08:26

When will the men be told to use disabled loos because Jenny from Accounts is Jake every other Tuesday? And get some sanoro bins in there you bigots - Jake is having his period. He is womenstruating.

BumbrainusMaximus · 19/10/2018 08:35

So people with disabilities have to sacrifice their hard won and still inadequate facilities now?
Some pretty clear messages being sent here about who actually matters, eh?

paffuto · 19/10/2018 08:35

Rufus, I don't know if you remember this, but months ago you and I both made fools of ourselves and sloped off from a thread (even though FWR posters kindly said there was no need) Blush Grin (waves to Rufus) I've name changed since then. Just wanted to say, I've never seen you swear so much as just recently Grin Grin Grin I've been the same, it's the frustration I think and the constantly having to repeat ourselves.

Yamayo · 19/10/2018 08:53

Late to the debate but just watched the Danish video.

You know what upset me the most? He's now legally a woman and was bragging about receiving his cervical screening letter.
Over 300 000 women died last year of cervical cancer.
Some aren't screened and diagnosed too late.

He has NO chance of ever getting cervical cancer.
For him it was a rite of passage.

FekkoTheLawyer · 19/10/2018 08:55

R4 now

Chalkhillblu3 · 19/10/2018 08:59

Brave and stunning trans activist Paris Lees paints herself as badass. Didn't last very long on Celebrity Island though.

Chalkhillblu3 · 19/10/2018 09:00

@Yamayo there are trans women who are convinced they get periods too. They will be putting cushions up their jumpers and entering labour wards next.

FekkoTheLawyer · 19/10/2018 09:02

She is speaking sense. (m2f)

He (f2m) is whinging about the medicalisation aspect. He admits that people coukd abuse the system but no one would ever just click a button (read the news mate!)

She is saying sex! Thank you! She has concerns and understands the issues.

He - safeguards - 'the issue for me', uhuh self centred. 'Appropriate action' would be taken for people misappropriating the rule - yeah, dude after they rape. Good on you for taking on the male egocentric world view though. Cheers.

And this, ladies and gentlemen, is the difference between men and women.

paffuto · 19/10/2018 09:05

there are trans women who are convinced they get periods too This is what peaked DH and also the sports.

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