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AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

To not have my sister as Bridesmaid?

156 replies

jojo2232 · 16/10/2018 16:33

Pretty new here so forgive me if I don’t get the lingo right!
Tricky one, long one so bare with me.

My DM is insisting my little sister is a bridesmaid at my wedding – she absolutely has to and I’m a monster and a shit sister if I don’t have her etc. It got really heated, she’s said some horrible things to try and guilt trip me in to doing this but here’s the reasons I don’t want her to be, and please read past the next line.

My DS is autistic. I love her and one on one we get on very well and have had lovely trips to London, Dublin etc just the two of us.
However, when it comes to being with lots of other people, mainly family, her behaviour towards me changes. This is learned and associated behaviour with my mother. She copies lots of things and sadly she spent most of my life watching my mum shout at me, say horrible things to me, and continually be very negative about me when I’m there and when I’m not. I officially moved to a city a few hours away at 16 after spending a couple of years staying over at friends whilst essentially being homeless. Thus, this is how my sister treats me when she is around me and other family members. She struggles in any situation really where she isn’t getting one on one attention, and that’s fine, I love spending time with her one on one. However, come my wedding day, I won’t be able to do that.
When I’m around family, my sister repeatedly shouts at me a bunch of stuff but there are a couple of lines that are consistent – ‘don’t laugh at me jo’ ‘don’t laugh’ ‘stop talking’ ‘stop annoying me jo’ ‘ you’re not allowed to drink tonight’ ‘I don’t like it when everyone drinks’
So on and so forth. It may seem hard to believe, but all of the above, is often when I’m sat minding my own business, not making eye contact with her, not smiling, not laughing etc – I often sit this way, eyes down, not talking to anyone etc to avoid upsetting her/being shouted at. You may think, oh don’t be so insensitive, she’s autistic, she can’t help it etc . I get that. However, having to sit through entire family meals where I cannot say a word, or laugh without getting told off and often being told off anyway, it takes it’s toll. My partner was completely shocked and very upset the first time he witnessed this. My sister inlaw took me to the side and asked why everyone treats me this way and since then my brother has been a lot nicer to me – I think she had a word – that particular occasion, I lost it and said Jem, I’m not laughing at you or at all, please leave me alone – to which everyone jumped on my back for getting on to my sister, despite me putting up with jibes politely for an hour whilst no one said anything to her about it.
She has negative connotations with alcohol because my dad likes a drink and can be a bit loud, and my mum makes a big thing out of it, which results in stressing my sister out more than is necessary.
You see the above may not seem all that bad, but here’s how I see my wedding day going.
Get ready with my bridesmaids, have some prosecco for the nerves. Fine, lovely time.
If my sister’s there, get told off for drinking, get told I’m making her upset because we are drinking, get told off for smiling, get told off for laughing – all of the while this is upsetting her. This will go on for a lot of the day, as obviously a lot of the day is spent with bridesmaids etc.
So my issue is NEITHER of us will enjoy the day. I won’t be able to give her one on one attention as there will be lots of other things to think about on the day. All of my favourite people in one room, so lots of people to chat to.
Whereas, if she is with my DM or DB etc… they can focus on her and make sure she is enjoying the day, she gets on really well with my brother (she wasn’t a bridesmaid at his wedding though, despite the fact she spends significantly more time with my brother and his wife – my mum worships the ground he and his wife walk on, always has and thus any decisions they made for their wedding were not questioned) and thus she will enjoy her day more and I’ll at least have one less worry of someone enjoying themselves and be left to do as I please without being told off throughout the day?
I’ve explained all of the above to my M but she still says I am unfair and being horrible to exclude my sister in this way. She will probably never get asked to be a bridesmaid now etc etc…
I’d like to ask my younger cousin (8) to be a flower girl but my mum says that is even more disrespectful to my sister. I am very close with my younger cousin, I’ve been an au pair for her since she was young, and I see her once a month or so and we have a very lovely bond.

AIBU?!!?!?!

OP posts:
thatmustbenigelwiththebrie · 16/10/2018 16:35

I dunno, if it keeps the peace I'd probably just have her.

Underpressureidiot · 16/10/2018 16:37

I would say don’t have her and explain it - maybe even write a letter to your mum so you can get it all out without being interrupted. They treat you awfully and I feel so sad reading it - there is no way you can not be expected to smile etc on your bloody wedding day!!!! Have a wonderful day OP and I hope things are okay

Rachie1973 · 16/10/2018 16:38

I would stick to your guns. Ask your cousin and ignore the barbs.

Aprilislonggone · 16/10/2018 16:39

Your day your rules.
Personally wouldn't have your dm there either!!
I didn't have my dm at any of mine!!
And the last one dh uninvited his dm!!

Winterbella · 16/10/2018 16:40

Can't she just be a bridesmaid in name, ie wear the dress etc but be separate except for pictures, its not like shes not going to be invited to your wedding just that she would be sitting with your DM etc.

That way she is included but her needs are met and she might be calmer and not cause a fuss.

girlwithadragontattoo · 16/10/2018 16:41

No yanbu. I understand that completely and i think it's very selfish of your mother to put you in a position like that.
You'd be more happier if she wasn't a bridesmaid so keep it that way, especially if it'll upset you on one of the happiest days of your life. You don't want everyone to be walking on eggshells whilst your getting ready

Unicornandbows · 16/10/2018 16:41

Stick to your guns and don't put her as bridesmaid. This is your special day where you take a step into a new chapter in your life. The last thing you need is someone berating you and making you feel insignificant.

Your mother can get over herself let her scream and throw tantrums. Pour your self a glass of wine and ignore it all.

X

AuntBeastie · 16/10/2018 16:41

Is there any possibility of a compromise, where she’s a bridesmaid but instead of getting ready with you she gets ready with your brother and SIL and just meets you at the wedding venue? She could sit with them during the meal instead of at the top table (not at all unusual for bridesmaids).

If that isn’t an option and it’s all or nothing then YANBU to say no. It sounds like she would really ruin your day, and your wedding is really one day which is about you not her.

PlinkPlink · 16/10/2018 16:41

Woah. That was alot. It seems you've been bottling this up for a very long time.

Her having autism does not mean you are not allowed to feel those things. I'm sure there will be some people who will say that though. You are human. When you live with someone who has autism, it's really hard to be tolerant ALL the time. You sound wonderfully tolerant and like a very loving sister.

You are allowed to do whatever you want for your wedding. You are allowed to ask whoever you want to be a flower girl. You are allowed to have YOUR plans the way YOU want them.

Someone else needs to stay with her and give her that one on one attention on your wedding day. It's stressful enough without having to worry about whether you'll be harassed during the day for having a few drinks (which is totally standard at a wedding).

Have you expressed this all to your DM?

CocoLoco87 · 16/10/2018 16:42

It's your wedding, have who you want as a bridesmaid. If I were you, it's too risky to have your sister and I wouldnt. It would really spoil your day if all these comments and behaviours end up happening. You only get one wedding day! (Hopefully!) Give yourself as perfect a day as you can. You're entitled to drink prosecco while you get ready without being shouted at.

Bonesy1 · 16/10/2018 16:42

You sound like a lovely sister who has put up withalot of poor treatment from your family. This is your day, don’t be bullied into making decisions that will cause you stress on the day

hammeringinmyhead · 16/10/2018 16:42

YANBU. But... when is the wedding? If it's not for a few months you probably have to weigh up having her (and ignoring her as far as possible on the day) versus months and months of your mum banging on. Also the potential of your mum loudly commenting to other guests that you didn't want your sister as a BM due to her autism.

jojo2232 · 16/10/2018 16:43

@underpressureidiot thank you so much! I have moved even further away from home now as my family life has always upset me and I have other family nearer where I live who make me feel loved and less monster like. Needless to say my family never visit, but at least that way the ball is in my court for when to see them etc... every cloud!
the letter is a great idea, thanks for your lovely advice!

@rachie1973 thank you! I'm trying!

@thatmustbenigelwiththebrie definitely seems like the easier option for the lead up to the wedding, just not so enjoyable on the day but definitely what springs to mind each time the conversation comes up!

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MakeAHouseAHome · 16/10/2018 16:44

No you are NBU at all! Your wedding, you can do what you want and you certainly don't have to explain or justify it. ALSO I would certainly ask your 8 year old cousin- don't let them put you off doing what you want on YOUR day.

Confusedbeetle · 16/10/2018 16:44

This is one of the reasons weddings are such a pain. Just don't have bridesmaids, simple. Doesnt have to be a big raz ma taz day to be happy

SilverLining10 · 16/10/2018 16:45

Yanbu at all. If you cant have your wedding day to be happy and do as you would like then when can you. You would be hugely resentful of your wedding and them if you go along to keep the peace.

Ilnome · 16/10/2018 16:47

Given all the things you have said I think your ma has no right to dictate what you do, things haven’t been easy for you and I think you have done well for yourself, maybe you could make up a false role for your sister? If she likes arts put her in charge of decorating table cards and ensuring the table cards and any favours have been put on the tables on the day, maybe take her shopping once to buy these things? So she is involved but not in a way that stops you from having the day you want? And also to justify the flower girl they are usually younger children and dsis is too old maybe? Either way YANBU (sorry for the ramble)

GreenTulips · 16/10/2018 16:47

I agree, she should not be your responsibility at your wedding - the rest ia irrelevant.

HildaZelda · 16/10/2018 16:49

YANBU. Not at all. Your mother is the one who is being unreasonable for trying to guilt you into this and trying to ruin your big day.
Not quite the same situation but I didn't enjoy my wedding at all because most of it was orchestrated by my parents and wasn't what either myself or DH wanted, but we were guilted into so much and made to feel the worst in the world if we didn't do it their way.
If I was getting married again in the morning, I'd do it all very very differently.

Stick to your guns OP. It's YOUR wedding day, not your mother's or your sister's and you should be able to enjoy it x

WhenISnappedAndFarted · 16/10/2018 16:49

Oh OP, the way your family treat you is disgusting.

Stick to your guns, it's your wedding and do what you want

jojo2232 · 16/10/2018 16:49

@Aprilislonggone this has crossed my mind but despite not having the best relationship with them, it makes me sad to think of my dm not being there! it will be quite a big wedding in terms of numbers and i just think it would be awkward

however then you've got the point that @hammeringinmyhead makes - this gives me the fear! i love my sister, and for her to say that would break my heart, especially if my sister heard!

thank you all for the lovely comments xxx

OP posts:
GuntyMcGee · 16/10/2018 16:49

YANBU in my opinion.

Ok, your sister can't help her behaviour, but that doesn't mean that you should have to walk on eggshells and not enjoy your wedding day because of that.

Ultimately, you will regret not standing up for yourself if you go along with what your mum says. You will spend all day shrinking yourself away to keep someone else happy. Is that how you want to spend what is supposed to be the happiest day of your life?

Your wedding is about you and your partner, and not an opportunity for someone to be a bridesmaid just because it's likely no one else will ask her. That's ridiculous and just continues the perpetual cycle that you're in of allowing your family to walk all over you.

The fact that you won't be able to have a drink or even speak to your guests means that you won't actually enjoy the day at all.
How would your sister cope with the attention of being your bridesmaid? Will it upset her being in the spotlight or will it make her more likely to act out against you? Either way you won't be enjoying your day.

Be strong OP, stand your ground and tell your mum and sister that as it's your wedding day, you'll be choosing who does what, and if they don't like it they don't have to come. Their options are shut up and enjoy being guests or don't go. It's as simple as that. No one other than you and your DP should dictate what happens on your wedding day. It is as simple as that.

OhComeOnRon · 16/10/2018 16:50

No YANBU - it is your wedding day and you should be able to enjoy it exactly as you want to.

How does your sister feel about it ? Or is this all your mother?

KC225 · 16/10/2018 16:51

Ignore the first poster who clearly did NOT read the full post.

YANBU. Do not cave in. Its your wedding day. You entitled to not have to babysit your adult sister and not be stressed or insulted as you are getting ready. Has you sister even asked you if she can be your bridesmaid? Because it sounds as if its only your Mother who wants this to go ahead. Take your sister out alone for a coffee/cake and explain to why its not going to happen. Perhaps you can give her another task, confetti, witness, taking some photographs, guestbook. Help her choose a dress, shoes - tiara/fascinator maybe.

Rope your brother in and other family members to deal with your mother if she keeps going on.

Ask you little cousin and have a lovely day

percheron67 · 16/10/2018 16:51

How old is your sister? If she is still a child why don't you make sure she has something pretty to wear and put her in charge of giving confetti boxes to guests or another small task. That way you won't have the constant pressure of her spoiling the procession and service but she can feel both pretty and useful. Enjoy your day.