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AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

To not have my sister as Bridesmaid?

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jojo2232 · 16/10/2018 16:33

Pretty new here so forgive me if I don’t get the lingo right!
Tricky one, long one so bare with me.

My DM is insisting my little sister is a bridesmaid at my wedding – she absolutely has to and I’m a monster and a shit sister if I don’t have her etc. It got really heated, she’s said some horrible things to try and guilt trip me in to doing this but here’s the reasons I don’t want her to be, and please read past the next line.

My DS is autistic. I love her and one on one we get on very well and have had lovely trips to London, Dublin etc just the two of us.
However, when it comes to being with lots of other people, mainly family, her behaviour towards me changes. This is learned and associated behaviour with my mother. She copies lots of things and sadly she spent most of my life watching my mum shout at me, say horrible things to me, and continually be very negative about me when I’m there and when I’m not. I officially moved to a city a few hours away at 16 after spending a couple of years staying over at friends whilst essentially being homeless. Thus, this is how my sister treats me when she is around me and other family members. She struggles in any situation really where she isn’t getting one on one attention, and that’s fine, I love spending time with her one on one. However, come my wedding day, I won’t be able to do that.
When I’m around family, my sister repeatedly shouts at me a bunch of stuff but there are a couple of lines that are consistent – ‘don’t laugh at me jo’ ‘don’t laugh’ ‘stop talking’ ‘stop annoying me jo’ ‘ you’re not allowed to drink tonight’ ‘I don’t like it when everyone drinks’
So on and so forth. It may seem hard to believe, but all of the above, is often when I’m sat minding my own business, not making eye contact with her, not smiling, not laughing etc – I often sit this way, eyes down, not talking to anyone etc to avoid upsetting her/being shouted at. You may think, oh don’t be so insensitive, she’s autistic, she can’t help it etc . I get that. However, having to sit through entire family meals where I cannot say a word, or laugh without getting told off and often being told off anyway, it takes it’s toll. My partner was completely shocked and very upset the first time he witnessed this. My sister inlaw took me to the side and asked why everyone treats me this way and since then my brother has been a lot nicer to me – I think she had a word – that particular occasion, I lost it and said Jem, I’m not laughing at you or at all, please leave me alone – to which everyone jumped on my back for getting on to my sister, despite me putting up with jibes politely for an hour whilst no one said anything to her about it.
She has negative connotations with alcohol because my dad likes a drink and can be a bit loud, and my mum makes a big thing out of it, which results in stressing my sister out more than is necessary.
You see the above may not seem all that bad, but here’s how I see my wedding day going.
Get ready with my bridesmaids, have some prosecco for the nerves. Fine, lovely time.
If my sister’s there, get told off for drinking, get told I’m making her upset because we are drinking, get told off for smiling, get told off for laughing – all of the while this is upsetting her. This will go on for a lot of the day, as obviously a lot of the day is spent with bridesmaids etc.
So my issue is NEITHER of us will enjoy the day. I won’t be able to give her one on one attention as there will be lots of other things to think about on the day. All of my favourite people in one room, so lots of people to chat to.
Whereas, if she is with my DM or DB etc… they can focus on her and make sure she is enjoying the day, she gets on really well with my brother (she wasn’t a bridesmaid at his wedding though, despite the fact she spends significantly more time with my brother and his wife – my mum worships the ground he and his wife walk on, always has and thus any decisions they made for their wedding were not questioned) and thus she will enjoy her day more and I’ll at least have one less worry of someone enjoying themselves and be left to do as I please without being told off throughout the day?
I’ve explained all of the above to my M but she still says I am unfair and being horrible to exclude my sister in this way. She will probably never get asked to be a bridesmaid now etc etc…
I’d like to ask my younger cousin (8) to be a flower girl but my mum says that is even more disrespectful to my sister. I am very close with my younger cousin, I’ve been an au pair for her since she was young, and I see her once a month or so and we have a very lovely bond.

AIBU?!!?!?!

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anitagreen · 16/10/2018 16:53

It's your day no one else's so your rules go if you don't want to do something you don't need to let anyone in this world convince you to do it. Keep to your plan and enjoy your day it's not anyone else business 

Thesnobbymiddleclassone · 16/10/2018 16:53

If you don't want her don't have her.

DC18 · 16/10/2018 16:54

It's sounds as though you have spent a lot of time adapting your behaviour to ensure your sister's needs are met but for your wedding you deserve to have a wonderful day feeling like a princess. I wouldn't ask your sister to be a bridesmaid. Honestly, from what you have said I doubt she would even enjoy it herself and you would spend the whole day worried about keeping her comfortable. I think your mum has put your sister's needs over yours for long enough. Stick to your guns x

Jaxhog · 16/10/2018 16:55

How is YOU excluding her worse than your brother doing it? If she wasn't a bridesmaid for him, why would she or your DM expect her to be for you? Especially as she finds it difficult to behave around you in particular. It really isn't upto your DM to press you like this. Although I know they all do it!

I'd find her something special (and not likely to stress her, or upset you) to do. Something that 'only she can do'. But not a bridesmaid.

jojo2232 · 16/10/2018 16:56

@Confusedbeetle I totally agree, at this point would rather just elope! however my partner and I have always dreamed of our wedding day and are fortunate to have a great big circle of people we want to invite... we've been to 6 weddings this year, 7 last and 5 the year before that... can't remember past that but we love weddings and getting together with everyone we love and I know he has that idea in his head so I don't want to deprive him of that!

@Ilnome that is a wonderful idea - if not to please my mother but just a nice way to include my sister a little more in a one on one way, thank you!

@HildaZelda I'm sorry to hear about the way your parents made your wedding day. That sucks. My DM said her mother controlled her wedding day plans and so perhaps it comes from that... maybe it's an old fashioned thing to do, I don't know...
You could always renew your vows on a special anniversary and have a fab little party with those you want there and do it your way! Best alternative when you're happily married! ha

@WhenISnappedandFarted thank you xxx

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goose1964 · 16/10/2018 16:57

Neither my sister or I had each other as bridesmaids, in fact don't think it crossed either of our minds. Could you think of another way she could be involved such as an usher or be in charge of tissues , makeup etc

CantWaitToRetire · 16/10/2018 16:58

Could you come to a compromise and have her as some sort of 'special attendant' like Beatrice and Louise were for Eugenie at her wedding? Those two seemed to be dressed up but didn't actually do much or have an offical role. Your DS could wear a pretty dress (not the same but maybe same colour as the bridesmaids) and you could big it up to her that she is more important than being a mere bridesmaid, but don't actually have her involved if you see what I mean. You could have a special photo done with her later after the main photos. I'd make sure DS got ready with DM, away from your main wedding party preparations, so as not to cause any upsets with her shouting.

LagunaBubbles · 16/10/2018 16:58

dunno, if it keeps the peace I'd probably just have her

More fool you then, there are many times you maybe need to sacrifice your own happiness for the sake of someone else but your own wedding day isn't one of them!

AmIRightOrAMeringue · 16/10/2018 16:58

Can you speak to your sister about it? If she is desperate to do it, I'd tell her she can but get ready separately, don't put her on your table etc, just have her in a dress and in pictures really, as a compromise. Or see if she can do some other special role - like an usher or something. But do not have her as a full on bridesmaid and ruin your day for her - her autism doesn't trump your right to be happy all the time

MatildaTheCat · 16/10/2018 17:00

If she has a good relationship with your brother how about finding a special job for the two of them? Handing out order of service and greeting guests or similar? She can still be very involved in the day but in a way that suits the needs of all of you.

I would imply that this is more important to you than just being a bridesmaid and obviously you do chose a task that is enjoyable and non stressful for you.

Your mother I’m not so sure about unfortunately.

Enjoy your day.

Bibijayne · 16/10/2018 17:01

YANBU

However, not sure if this could be a solution. It does depend on DS's age.

I had undiagnosed ASD as a kid. Unsurprisingly I was never s bridesmaid. Well not until 29.

I don't have any very young relatives, but I do have a good friend who's 9 year old girl had ASD and was always seen as a liability at weddings.

I asked her to be a junior bridesmaid. She was with her mum right up until just before the ceremony. She walked down the aisle with my sister who was my MOH.

I sent her mum a recording of the aisle music beforehand. She practised walking for weeks.

On the day she was great. She spent a lot of the time with her mum. But she was thrilled to be included and I was happy to help someone s bit like me have a special day.

I think she was even.more excited than me.

But this solution depends on your mum and fsmilybeing supportive and helping your DS navigate the day without bothering you.

In the end, the day is about you and your partner. Do what will make you happy.

blueskiesandforests · 16/10/2018 17:02

YANBU - it's clearly not in your sister's interest to make her bridesmaid. She will be overwhelmed and stressed by the sounds of it. It certainly wont keep the peace for you!

Your mother clearly has an agenda, perhaps about projecting a happy families image or just about wanting to enjoy herself at your wedding while you look after your sister... Whatever her agenda is its clearly not about either you or your sister having whats best for them as an individual.

I'm amazed you're involving your mother at all having read your whole post - a duty invitation as a regular guest on a par with an aunt with no involvement in planning would be generous and forgiving afyer the way she's treated you since your teens.

jojo2232 · 16/10/2018 17:04

Thank you all so much for these wonderful suggestions.
She's 22 so not young enough for flower girl etc hence why I'm asking my little cousin.
However I think giving her a different duty is a lovely idea and I'll start having a think on what that might be that is enjoyable for her, your suggestions have been great and will consult my partner and sis on them!

My lovely sister hasn't asked to be a bridesmaid - it honestly wouldn't cross her mind, she is so unassuming, she is completely unaware of the chats this far (she is at a facility and occasionally comes home for weekends, holidays etc) so far she hasn't been around for any of these chats, not that my mum would hesitate to have them in front of her.

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spanishwife · 16/10/2018 17:06

Agree with other posters, find her another little job, but make sure she is away from you during the day e.g. not getting ready with you, meal sat next to your DM etc.

Stay firm on this, you don't need to explain reasoning to anyone but you can make a big fuss of the role given to her and why it's so perfect for your sister and you can't wait for her to do it blah blah. Don't discuss with your mum before hand either, just ask your sister outright, then she wont have a chance to twist your arm and guilt trip you.

1234567A · 16/10/2018 17:07

It’s your day so you should be entitled to make the rules. Bridesmaids are there to help the bride on her big day but it seems like she gets quite upset about things that would naturally happen during a wedding such as laughing, drinking etc. I know your mother would probably love for your younger sister to be a bridesmaid but it may be slightly overwhelming for her and it wouldn’t be fair on both of you as you will be constantly trying to make sure your sister is having fun instead of being able to fully enjoy your own wedding. You mentioned she gets on great with your mother and brother and I feel that’s probably the fairest option for both you and your sister. It’s not like you’re excluding her all together but this is the one day that you should be able to make the rules.

SandAndSea · 16/10/2018 17:07

YANBU.

I was going to suggest something much like @Ilnome .

Angrybird345 · 16/10/2018 17:07

Tell your mum it’s your day! No to the sister.

NC4Now · 16/10/2018 17:13

How do you think it would go down if you had her as bridesmaid but getting ready with family, rather than with you?
It sounds like she wouldn't enjoy the bridesmaid role really, but it would be nice for her to have the dress, hair etc, and to be called a bridesmaid.
If that could work, it could be a nice compromise.
I'd just explain that it will be a bit silly and noisy, and people will be drinking but you'll meet her at the venue with whoever is walking you down the aisle (one of your parents presumably?)

Feefeetrixabelle · 16/10/2018 17:14

Have your sister as a bridesmaid BUT on your terms. So she gets the dress and to walk down the aisle etc however she gets ready separately with your mum, she doesn’t sit at the head table etc because it will overwhelm her due to her learned behaviour.

Missingstreetlife · 16/10/2018 17:14

It used to be that the brides parents paid for the wedding. So they probably felt entitled. If you are paying do it your way.
Think a good idea to have a special job for your sister. This happened at a family event recently where someone with issues was contained very successfully without even noticing. Have someone mention her in a speech, or put her in the order of service if you have one

Knittedfairies · 16/10/2018 17:15

You’ve had some good suggestions OP. I think you might point out to your mum that your sister might well get stressed on the day with all the (unaccustomed) goings on and people about. Find her a special role, like decorating the tables or giving out favours, but get your brother and sister in law on board.

NC4Now · 16/10/2018 17:16

My best friend is a bit unreliable and hard work. It's not her fault - she has ADHD - but to have her as a bridesmaid would have been a strain on both of us.

I had her as a witness, so her name is on my marriage certificate. Important role and all that, but no frills or commitment beyond turning up on the day required.

Missingstreetlife · 16/10/2018 17:16

Quote the royal weddings, all those little children were flower girls. Adult women not so much

OlennasWimple · 16/10/2018 17:17

She could be a bridesmaid in the same way that Beatrice was for Eugenie... Ie not really, but it made everyone feel better to label it that way Wink

jojo2232 · 16/10/2018 17:18

Lovely idea's about having her as bridesmaid - for some reason her getting ready separately / sitting at different tables etc made me feel a bit mean but I guess if I don't make her bridesmaid that would be the case anyways...

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