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AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

To not have my sister as Bridesmaid?

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jojo2232 · 16/10/2018 16:33

Pretty new here so forgive me if I don’t get the lingo right!
Tricky one, long one so bare with me.

My DM is insisting my little sister is a bridesmaid at my wedding – she absolutely has to and I’m a monster and a shit sister if I don’t have her etc. It got really heated, she’s said some horrible things to try and guilt trip me in to doing this but here’s the reasons I don’t want her to be, and please read past the next line.

My DS is autistic. I love her and one on one we get on very well and have had lovely trips to London, Dublin etc just the two of us.
However, when it comes to being with lots of other people, mainly family, her behaviour towards me changes. This is learned and associated behaviour with my mother. She copies lots of things and sadly she spent most of my life watching my mum shout at me, say horrible things to me, and continually be very negative about me when I’m there and when I’m not. I officially moved to a city a few hours away at 16 after spending a couple of years staying over at friends whilst essentially being homeless. Thus, this is how my sister treats me when she is around me and other family members. She struggles in any situation really where she isn’t getting one on one attention, and that’s fine, I love spending time with her one on one. However, come my wedding day, I won’t be able to do that.
When I’m around family, my sister repeatedly shouts at me a bunch of stuff but there are a couple of lines that are consistent – ‘don’t laugh at me jo’ ‘don’t laugh’ ‘stop talking’ ‘stop annoying me jo’ ‘ you’re not allowed to drink tonight’ ‘I don’t like it when everyone drinks’
So on and so forth. It may seem hard to believe, but all of the above, is often when I’m sat minding my own business, not making eye contact with her, not smiling, not laughing etc – I often sit this way, eyes down, not talking to anyone etc to avoid upsetting her/being shouted at. You may think, oh don’t be so insensitive, she’s autistic, she can’t help it etc . I get that. However, having to sit through entire family meals where I cannot say a word, or laugh without getting told off and often being told off anyway, it takes it’s toll. My partner was completely shocked and very upset the first time he witnessed this. My sister inlaw took me to the side and asked why everyone treats me this way and since then my brother has been a lot nicer to me – I think she had a word – that particular occasion, I lost it and said Jem, I’m not laughing at you or at all, please leave me alone – to which everyone jumped on my back for getting on to my sister, despite me putting up with jibes politely for an hour whilst no one said anything to her about it.
She has negative connotations with alcohol because my dad likes a drink and can be a bit loud, and my mum makes a big thing out of it, which results in stressing my sister out more than is necessary.
You see the above may not seem all that bad, but here’s how I see my wedding day going.
Get ready with my bridesmaids, have some prosecco for the nerves. Fine, lovely time.
If my sister’s there, get told off for drinking, get told I’m making her upset because we are drinking, get told off for smiling, get told off for laughing – all of the while this is upsetting her. This will go on for a lot of the day, as obviously a lot of the day is spent with bridesmaids etc.
So my issue is NEITHER of us will enjoy the day. I won’t be able to give her one on one attention as there will be lots of other things to think about on the day. All of my favourite people in one room, so lots of people to chat to.
Whereas, if she is with my DM or DB etc… they can focus on her and make sure she is enjoying the day, she gets on really well with my brother (she wasn’t a bridesmaid at his wedding though, despite the fact she spends significantly more time with my brother and his wife – my mum worships the ground he and his wife walk on, always has and thus any decisions they made for their wedding were not questioned) and thus she will enjoy her day more and I’ll at least have one less worry of someone enjoying themselves and be left to do as I please without being told off throughout the day?
I’ve explained all of the above to my M but she still says I am unfair and being horrible to exclude my sister in this way. She will probably never get asked to be a bridesmaid now etc etc…
I’d like to ask my younger cousin (8) to be a flower girl but my mum says that is even more disrespectful to my sister. I am very close with my younger cousin, I’ve been an au pair for her since she was young, and I see her once a month or so and we have a very lovely bond.

AIBU?!!?!?!

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tempester28 · 16/10/2018 17:19

Tell her you have a role more important than Bridesmaid (because they will all be on the proseco) if it is something she would enjoy - get her a dress/outfit in the theme/colour scheme of the bridesmaids but possibly slightly different/unique. She could put table gifts out (if you have them) hand out confetti, take pictures. Anything really that suits her skillset. Make her feel included and important for her not your mum. But make it so that you can enjoy your day and the lead up to it.

Spankyoumuchly · 16/10/2018 17:20

Why are you inviting your mum? She sounds abusive.

BewareOfDragons · 16/10/2018 17:20

YANBU.

Your family sounds horrible. They have made you a second class citizen in your own family to keep the peace with your sister. This is very, very wrong.

Tell your mother it's not happening. And if she doesn't like it, she doesn't have to come to the wedding.

I hope your future husband's family is lovely and welcoming ... I would seriously consider leaving my own family behind for the most part if they treated me this way. Awful.

Feefeetrixabelle · 16/10/2018 17:23

No not mean at all. It’s unreasonable to not expect you to have Prosecco on your wedding morning. And it’s unreasonable to not expect a room full of women getting ready won’t get loud and full of laughter. It would be completely unreasonable to subject your sister to that.

Have your head bridesmaid/ best man on main table if your not having a couples one then have a family table with your sister and brother and another one for husbands immediate family. And dot bridesmaids around.

eggsandwich · 16/10/2018 17:23

As a mother of a son who is Autistic I would absolutely say do not have her as bridesmaid, the day should be about YOU and you partner not about her in the nicest possible way.

You’ve probably had more than enough to deal with having a sibling with special needs and the compromising and allowances you would of had to do over the years to keep the peace, well this is the one time in your life you shouldn’t have to and you certainly don’t need your mother sucking the joy of what should been one of the happiest days of your life.

Do not get guilt tripped into having your sister as bridesmaid just because its what your mother wants, tell her my wedding my choice and if she doesn’t like it then tell her don’t come.

WerewolfNumber1 · 16/10/2018 17:24

My sister is autistic, and there’s no way she could have handled being a bridesmaid.

Yanbu at all.

Find a “special job” for her to do, get her excited about it and then tell your DM that she is a Bridesmaid and her job will be doing x.

Tell your brother and SIL that they need to look after your sister on the day.

Hope the day goes well.

jojo2232 · 16/10/2018 17:25

@tempester28 I've always tried to have sympathy for my mum, she was a young mum with an autistic child - I can't imagine that was easy for her - both her parents have died and she has no siblings, so I think the world is sometimes a lonely difficult place for her.

her and my dad are together and so it would be difficult not to have her i feel also.

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jojo2232 · 16/10/2018 17:26

woops this was meant for @Spankyoumuchly

@tempester28 I've always tried to have sympathy for my mum, she was a young mum with an autistic child - I can't imagine that was easy for her - both her parents have died and she has no siblings, so I think the world is sometimes a lonely difficult place for her.

her and my dad are together and so it would be difficult not to have her i feel also.

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DontCallMeCharlotte · 16/10/2018 17:27

I think AuntBeastie has the solution spot on:

Is there any possibility of a compromise, where she’s a bridesmaid but instead of getting ready with you she gets ready with your brother and SIL and just meets you at the wedding venue? She could sit with them during the meal instead of at the top table (not at all unusual for bridesmaids).

Good luck OP!

jojo2232 · 16/10/2018 17:31

@BewareOfDragons thank you for your lovely message. My partner's family are so lovely and I've never felt such a valued part of a family before. I moved away to be away from the situation physically, but I do get on with my sister and Dad pretty well and have friends at home still so I like to visit now and again. Honestly it just upsets me that I don't have a good relationship with my mother, I'd like nothing more.

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anniehm · 16/10/2018 17:32

I'm on your mums side tbh. But speak to your sister, ask if she wants to be a bridesmaid, ask if she would like to get ready with your mum as it will be quiet there. I get really annoyed when my dd is sidelined because she is difficult, autistic people have feelings too, even if they express themselves badly and out of turn

ApolloandDaphne · 16/10/2018 17:33

You sound like a lovely sister and are thinking not just about yourself but how being a bridesmaid would affect your sister. It sounds like it would be massively stressful for her and she may enjoy a different role in your wedding which plays to her strengths.

jojo2232 · 16/10/2018 17:33

@eggsandwich and @WerewolfNumber1 thank you both it's nice to hear it from your perspective, means a lot

@DontCallMeCharlotte and @AuntBeastie I agree - fantastic solution thank you

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MaiaRindell · 16/10/2018 17:33

YANBU to to want to have a stress-free wedding.

Could you compromise and she could wear the dress etc but have no other duties and get ready with your DM?

tribpot · 16/10/2018 17:33

I was also going to suggest she could be a flower girl and your DB could be in charge of her and your cousin for the day, but at 22 being asked to be a flower girl could be a bit odd. Could they be Junior and Senior Flower Girls? So your sister could feel she was the Chief Flower Girl - more special than a bridesmaid as there is only one.

FFSFFSFFS · 16/10/2018 17:34

Could be a good opportunity to make it clear to your mother how you are going to conduct your life.

So a NO to bridesmaid. But is there another "special role" that you can give to your sister just in case she (as opposed to your god awful mother) can do? Depending on the extent of her disabilities or abilities - could she be in charge of something at the venue before (and therefore not at your place) maybe in charge of setting up the flowers? or some sort of special treat for guests on arrival that only she can do etc etc.

Definitely okay to say a big fat no. Especially as its your mother not your sister asking.

tempester28 · 16/10/2018 17:35

@jojo2232

Sorry I didn't mean you shouldn't invite your mum , I meant do what is appropriate for you and your sister. I wouldn't underestimate the strain it puts on parents bring up an Autistic child. I hope you all have a love day

Angharad07 · 16/10/2018 17:35

Your mum is an arsehole. Your sister probably wouldn’t notice unless your mum makes a fuss of it. Don’t invite her, it’s your day.

jojo2232 · 16/10/2018 17:36

@anniehm it's not about her being difficult, it's about my behaviours upsetting her on the day. for example, when myself and the other bridesmaids are getting ready - she will be with unfamiliar people - we will be drinking and laughing etc... this will 100% upset her. i just don't think that's fair on her?

what would your solution be for the above scenario?

because honestly, if it was just that she'd shout at me for drinking, I'd be like yeah ok sure, no prosecco when we get ready. But I am not exaggerating when I say, she doesn't like people laughing, or speaking to loudly etc.

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jojo2232 · 16/10/2018 17:37

@tempester28 haha yeah sorry i accidentally @'d you instead of someone else in that reply ! thanks for your lovely comment xxx

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Singlenotsingle · 16/10/2018 17:41

It's your day, not theirs. You're entitled to have whoever you want, and if she's going to spoil it, best not to have her.

BrisaOtonal · 16/10/2018 17:43

You have good suggestions here. Personally I would have booked a 2 week trip to Hawaii and married on a beach so as not to cause myself any agro.

Your mum......Hmm

Your Db is her golden child so I guess that makes you her scapegoat. It certainly seems to me that you are the pressure valve in your family and you are the vessel by which they can let off all their pent up feelings. That is unacceptable. The way she treats you is absolutely AWFUL. What she should actually be saying is it is your day, you deserve it and she will make sure your Dsis is happy and looked after so your day can go ahead smoothly. Instead your wedding day is about her and your Dsis. I bet she isn't even that bothered about her being a bridesmaid and this is a great opportunity for her to grind you under her heel to make her sad self feel better.

Once you are married you may be starting to think about your own family. I think this is a good time to tell your mum to get to fuck or don't bother contacting you and your little family. Are you going to let her talk to you like this in front of your DC? Can you see your Dsis yourself without having to go through her?

shouldwestayorshouldwego · 16/10/2018 17:43

I would see if she could be a witness- more important than a bridesmaid but less stressful, and your brother could assist her and step in if needed. Another little role at the reception and maybe just have parents and best man on top table then she can sit with DB and SIL.

Cherries101 · 16/10/2018 17:51

Could she be a flower girl? Ie scattering flowers at the beginning before you make your appearence & your mum could then take care of her afterwards?

jojo2232 · 16/10/2018 17:52

@BrisaOtonal that sounds like a dream! ha

and honestly, it gives me the fear thinking about how she may treat my future DC... or even if she's lovely to them but talks badly about family members to them, i just don't want that for them. I've finally understood all of that but it's taken me a long time.
I was very close to my grandparents and so I'd love for my FDC to be the same but I do worry!

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