to stop shopping at M and S for selling hijabs for young girls

[worstmotherintheworld]

So M and S have started to sell hijabs as part of their school uniform range...aimed at primary school children. One reviewer helpfully suggests getting the small one for a 4 year old.

I have been shopping at Marks all my adult life and have remained a faithful customer despite some dodgy clothes of late and the uninspirational Sparks card, but I think this is going to be the last straw for me.

Actually, I mentioned nothing about war. Perhaps they can go and practice back in the ME then clearly implies that you think these displaced people should go BACK to the ME (where they came from).

dawnmist

why would you even think that it sexualises little girls.

ive not heard it, except from non muslims.

Stoning women anyone. The fact that women aren’t allowed to drive or go out unaccompanied. Please go ahead and get offended because I do not support little girls wearing a headscarf that covers their hair, neck and shoulders. These girls will also have their legs covered as well. Too easy to cite rascism though isn’t it?

Fredperry please don’t twist what i have said. I abhor any kind of violence. I’m stating that there is an increase in the wearing of the veil. So it is political then, nothing to do with religion. At last someone has admitted the reason.

The fact that women aren’t allowed to drive or go out unaccompanied

Oh for fuck's sake dear, these rules are imposed by governments, not the Quran.

dawnmist

its strange that anyone would think that men dont influence what women wear and how women behave. its part of this british patriarchal society

its whats behind the veil, because one is made to focus on the person behind the veil rather than the mass of make up that one is confronted with.

and the fact is that research shows that very few people can read facial/body language -- its why we are lied to daily , conned, and live largely in ignorance.

What about the religious police enforcing the rules

They are government agencies, enforcing the rules which the government of that particular country has set down.

I think you need to educate yourself

why would you even think that it sexualises little girls.
Is there a reason you’re just asking me, practically everyone else on here thinks the same. Of course i think it.

Young girls should not have to cover their hair.

finewine

its not political.

its about faith and identity. as muslims have been demonised and increasingly dehumanised .. they have asserted their religious identity. that is because of the hostility they face and have faced over the last 17 yrs to justify blairs/camerons/mays wars in the mid east,

in times past immigrants did not feel the need to, despite being scapegoats, othered they were not as muslims but as being pakistani/indian/brown. that moved them towards identifying with their parents homeland as british society became increasingly unaccepting --

So how come my family refuse to wear it when they aren't in their country of origin? It represents repression to them. Nothing to do with religious identity.

dawnmist

just the most recent post.

why do so many non muslims think it sexualises them, but no other item of clothing does.

and what kind of people look at a little girl and think she is sexualised by wearing a scarf?

Racecardriver says above:
'In more Conservative but still modest families (so not the kind who thought that all white girls were sluts or that jihad was acceptable for example but did only eat halal and didn't listen to music) I observed girls as young as 8 wearing them (8 is the youngest marriageable age in Islam) but it was usually when a girl started her periods.'

MyBeloved

not any of your business is it.

In the past immigrants assimilated into the UK and became part of society bringing their cultures and enriching society. No one tried to oppress women or impose their religious beliefs on others

FekkoTheLawyer

youre speaking for your family not any one else. and why would we know why your family behaves as it does

If little girls like to wear them because they see their relatives wearing them and looking nice so want to wear one too, what's the issue with that?

user1457017537
Women have always been oppressed in uk.

who wants too be a clone of you? why would anyone want assimilation?

as long as no laws are broken, doesnt impinge on your way of life .. who cares

and what kind of people look at a little girl and think she is sexualised by wearing a scarf?
What kind of people think a little girl’s hair needs covering up, who don’t they want to see it?

I think you need to educate yourself

OK, will you lend me your "Britain First annual for Boys and Girls" then please? So I can find out how those dreadful Muslamics are trying to impose their religious beliefs on me? Much obliged.

Wauden

in islam marriage can only happen with consent of both parties. they both have to be mature of mind and girls must have reached puberty. there is no premarital sex.

no muslim country has an age of consent less than 16yrs.
in the usa over last 10 yrs there have been 200,000 marriages (non muslim) of child brides (12yr old)

child marriages in indian subcontinent including christians does happen. it is cultural not religious. it is also illegal. forced marriages are illegal in pakistan.

If little girls like to wear them because they see their relatives wearing them and looking nice so want to wear one too, what's the issue
The last thing little girls want is to dress like their mums when they go to school. I don’t know any girls who do, they all want to be like their friends. It’s the parents who want it.

dawnmist

those that observe the tenets of their faith. its not just muslims.