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TrainsandDiggers · 09/10/2018 16:08

If your title was Dr and your child’s teacher kept referring to you as Mrs (a fair enough assumption on their part), would you correct them? And if you did, would you sound like you’re a bit up yourself? I’m aware of people correcting to Ms, Miss or Mrs, but not to anything else. TIA

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Thisreallyisafarce · 09/10/2018 17:10

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But I would put the mortgage on a parent complaining if I insisted on Mrs. Definitely.

itbemay · 09/10/2018 17:11

First name on school trips, you're not a teacher... and definitely
NOT Dr!! Why can't you just say ..call me may... they are kids and its a school, appreciate Dr in a professional capacity - time and place etc etc

BlackAmericanoNoSugar · 09/10/2018 17:12

My DH has a doctorate and goes by Mr (just saying for those who mentioned that it’s different for men).

DS’s school don’t even get my surname right, let alone my title, and I don’t really care because it makes no difference to whatever it is they’re talking to me about. In the OP’s situation I would only mention that I’m Dr X if the school trip was to do with the subject that my doctorate was in.

KurriKurri · 09/10/2018 17:13

I’d rather have a medical doctor with me than some random person with a PhD any day of the week in an emergency, where they are a ‘proper’ doctor or not.

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Well I imagine most people would in a medical emergency. Just like I'd rather have a lawyer with me than an academic if I need a divorce or rathe have a cleaner with me than an academic or a medical doctor if I want a clean house. I don't see what wanting the correct professional in place when you need a specific professional has to do with whether the OP uses her correct title or not.
A medical doctor is no more adept at herding children ona school trip than any other volunteer, so they wouldn't be of greater use than an academic doctor - again, the weird snobbery that only medical doctors are 'proper' doctors and anyone else trying to use the title is some sort of imposter.
It's a title gained by academics who have earned a doctorate - the clue is in the name, and the key word is earned.

Joe66 · 09/10/2018 17:13

If you have spent a number of years of your life swotting over books and doing without, like we do, then you are perfectly entitled and in my opinion should absolutely use your title! I also think the point about men using the prefix Dr is interesting and I'm not sure they would worry about it. I would want to use it because if you are signing Dr, in other contexts, where you are unknown, they have no idea of your gender.

basquiat · 09/10/2018 17:15

This is why I always correct people to call me Mrs. Basquiat BSc.

KurriKurri · 09/10/2018 17:15

First name on school trips, you're not a teacher

The Op has stated quite clearly that the staff are the ones wanting parent helpers to use a title. The staff at the school her children go to have asked for this. So there is no point on people shouting 'first names on school trips' as if this is some kind of universal rule. It isnt - only in your heads.

TimIsHavingABadDay · 09/10/2018 17:16

I am a fully qualified TA and work in a school , its Miss normally, even though I am a Mrs. But when I complete my PhD (start next year) I am going to be telling everybody that I encounter FOREVER that I am Dr.Tim
( not to be used in a primary school though, but the kids will know) .Nobody in my family even got A levels and it's the highest any of us, ever have achieved.....and I am talking even extended family. Best up to now is nurse and IT teacher out of 40 of us.

E20mom · 09/10/2018 17:17

I never do. I just thinks it makes you seem like one of those people.

Kewqueue · 09/10/2018 17:20

I don't use Mrs because I didn't change my name on marriage and, like you, it doesn't sound like MY name but my mother's! I use Dr at work, but I think here I would use Ms.

excitedalready2019 · 09/10/2018 17:21

, show the girls they too can be Drs (whichever kind)

Hmm

There’s more female doctors than there are male. Does everything has to twisted in to a gender issue??

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serbska · 09/10/2018 17:22

It’s your title, use it :-)

I think I’d just say something like “if you’d prefer the children to call us by surnames not first names, I’m actually Dr Smith not Mrs Smith. Thanks

Bellatrix14 · 09/10/2018 17:22

Given how many children have parents who aren’t married (which I’m not criticising, I was one of them!) I wouldn’t presume that John Smith’s mother was Mrs Smith and would check with them what they wanted to be called before I introduced them to a class of children, personally! Then it gives the parent a chance to say actually no, it’s Miss Jones/Ms Jones/Dr Jones if required.

I don’t think it’s at all unreasonable to expect to be called ‘Dr Lastname’ if it’s a situation where titles and last names are required. You’ve obviously worked hard for it!

Broken11Girl · 09/10/2018 17:24

YANBU, it's a title, if school choose to use title & surname they can bother to get it right. It's not wanky, pretentious etc. It's 2018, some posters need to realise that and learn some feminism.

wildbhoysmama · 09/10/2018 17:26

I have always been Ms Wild, when unmarried, married and divorced: Never changed my name. In school I am referred to as Mrs DS1 and 2's surname and in the other school Mrs Ds 3 surname. None of these are correct, but I don't correct, I just get on with it!

auntyflonono · 09/10/2018 17:28

What title did you put on your application/DBS forms?

My daughter's school had a TA with the title Dr and the children and staff had no trouble remembering.

If it were me I would mention it, casually.

Why are women so afraid of sounding over confident and immodest?

nearlythesummer · 09/10/2018 17:29

I wouldn't say anything. If you really feel the need to let the teacher know, just sign a letter with your name or email her?

reddressblueshoes · 09/10/2018 17:29

Are you a medical doctor of a PhD? It seems to be the norm among my friends, lots of whom are academics/have PhDs, that its seen as a bit pretentious to use Dr outside of work. Funnily enough though the women I know are more likely to do it because they don't often get sufficient recognition and it also cuts out the Mrs/Miss/Ms bullshit.

I get annoyed at being called Mrs and correct people: largely because Mrs me is my mother, I'm married but didn't change my name so if I were a Mrs I would be Mrs something else. Also, because I think the default for women should be Ms.

Agree that saying 'oh call me first name, I'm used to being Dr in work so when you say Mrs I keep looking for my mother in law' is the best way to broach it. Be jokey, but let the teacher know its not the title you use and then see what they do.

JodieWhittakersBraces · 09/10/2018 17:29

You 100% do not sound up yourself! You've worked bloody hard and I see no difference in people correcting from miss to mrs after they get married. I haven't read the whole 4 pages of thread but I suspect other people who have the Dr title would understand where you're coming from. Plus someone mentioned the importance of being a role model to the children or recognising a woman as a doctor - I agree with this! Plus I don't think people would be so quick to judge if it was a man! I'm married but I haven't taken my husband's surname and my title is doctor - I have no reservations about correcting people if they call me Mrs HusbandsName. Those who think that's pretentious, when they've done 8 years of university, they can tell me I'm I'm being unreasonable.

Cjngs · 09/10/2018 17:31

You have been asked but not clarified what type of ‘Dr.’ you are.
I find that medical Dr’s are much less insistent on being acknowledged as Dr. than say academic ones.
It’s entirely up to you, but on a school trip for instance, it comes over as you wanting everyone to know you’re so damn smart. Maybe it’s the British tendency to think a person is showing off if they’ve done well and want you to know it.
Being quietly clever is admired.

MrBirlingsAwfulWife · 09/10/2018 17:32

I'd never really thought about this before. But why do some professions warrant a title that gets used in daily life?

Why are Doctors or Professors known by their professional role but lawyers and teachers aren't (for example).
It all seems archaic and oddly elitist but also a bit random.

I'm sure there's an explanation.

HollowTalk · 09/10/2018 17:33

I think in schools you are just "Mrs Child's Surname", aren't you?

ManInTheMoonMarigold · 09/10/2018 17:34

I never use Dr outside a professional setting as I think it is irrelevant and unnecessary.

DP also does not use Dr except in a professional context, and I would say most academics I know don't unless they anticipate some personal gain, like a flight upgrade, from using it. It's seen as being a bit weirdly insecure and desperate for acknowledgement, as though people imagine that their education and intelligence would not otherwise be obvious.

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