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To correct this?

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TrainsandDiggers · 09/10/2018 16:08

If your title was Dr and your child’s teacher kept referring to you as Mrs (a fair enough assumption on their part), would you correct them? And if you did, would you sound like you’re a bit up yourself? I’m aware of people correcting to Ms, Miss or Mrs, but not to anything else. TIA

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loveyoutothemoon · 09/10/2018 16:52

I think they should be addressed as DR but to ask to correct, that's very snooty and unnecessary.

RainbowBriteRules · 09/10/2018 16:52

Curious, I went to four different schools (admittedly a while ago!) and my dad was consistently addressed as Mr not Dr. It may happen less to men but it certainly does happen. He reminded them multiple times and it still happened.

I like to think it was because they deliberately refused to acknowledge his arrogance the more annoyed he got but actually I think it was because they were busy actually teaching and running a school rather than worrying about titles which mean nothing outside an academic or professional capacity. I am still fuming about the song and dance he made about it over 20 years after I left school.

CuriousaboutSamphire · 09/10/2018 16:52

Look, if someone a woman was going around introducing themselves as Dr so-and-so rather than their first name, then that's wanky. Because men do it all the time... no one notices! They just adjust and call him Dr.

I know, too RadFem and all that. But it is the small things that make up our society. That underscore the male/female divide in all sorts of ways, like the glass ceiling, lack of girls succeeding in STEM subjects etc.

RainbowBriteRules · 09/10/2018 16:53

Totally Thats, sex is irrelevant, I would think the same either way.

CuriousaboutSamphire · 09/10/2018 16:53

Rainbow Interesting you see that as his arrogance

BrokenWing · 09/10/2018 16:53

If someone called me Miss or Ms instead of Mrs I wouldn't correct them (unless it was relevant to the situation) as there is no need and just makes the person saying it feel bad. Although I hate being called by my title and surname, its just too formal.

I would push for them to use my first name as in a school setting I think it is important the children know who are teachers and who are volunteers, especially in modern times when titles and surnames are rarely used.

pearpickingporky84 · 09/10/2018 16:54

DH and I are both Dr (one medical one PhD), neither of would correct someone in that situation and we certainly don’t correct the notes that come home addressed to Mr and Mrs Porky, school do know though, the put Dr on my name badge at a school open night as they though it would look good that they had professionals, I felt like a bit of a knob standing there pouring tea tbh!

BlackrockMum · 09/10/2018 16:55

I think if schools are using formal addressing for the kids sake, than yes you should absolutely correct them, your not insisting on using title your just telling them they are using wrong one, and you wont sound arsey just say when you say Mrs x I think of my mil, you'd only sound arsey if you demanded this, in my youngest school all library volunteers ( ahem because of an almighty B of a chairwoman on organising committee) MUST use titles and we have an Italian mum who prefers Senora , a French married woman who prefers Mademoiselle, - says madam makes her sound old and as she says teachers are usually Miss regardless of married status, and I am referred to as Mrs. first name, as my surname is a bit unwieldy, we also have a Mr. and a Fireman Sam ( he's not called sam we just decided to use it)

Starlings27 · 09/10/2018 16:55

I only tell people I'm a Doctor if they ask "Is it Mrs or Miss Starlings?" "Well, actually it's Doctor".

SimplySooty · 09/10/2018 16:56

My title is Dr and I go out of my way for people to NOT find out because I find they talk to you differently. My dad is a medical doctor and he does exactly the same.

Thisreallyisafarce · 09/10/2018 16:56

Put it this way: the students at school call me 'Miss' - virtually all of them. If I kept correcting it to 'Mrs', wouldn't you think I was being a bit needlessly pedantic?

basquiat · 09/10/2018 16:57

Why do doctors get a special non-ms/miss/mrs title, but other professions do not? Seems odd to me.

Feellikeimthemaid · 09/10/2018 16:59

But it's not her name per se, it's a prefix to show one's educational status. I can understand OP is proud of her achievement, and rightly so.

On a personal level I associate the title "Dr so-and-so" with someone in the medical field. I always wonder why there isn't a distinction in titles between those who have undertaken a medical degree and others who have achieved a doctorate degree, but that's just me. Probably because I'm not that highly educated LOL!

BlueberryPud · 09/10/2018 16:59

If you asked me to call you Dr. on a school trip I would think you were a complete gobshite and eye roll at how up yourself you were

Me too likewise. My cousin is a Dr. but none of the teachers at her children's school would have known that. I used to be clerical support to loads of people who had doctorates and nobody expected to be called Dr at work even. It is very wanky. It looks ok written down. Sometimes.

HenryInTheTunnel · 09/10/2018 17:00

I wouldn't use Doctor outside a professional capacity, no.

MaxTeyon · 09/10/2018 17:01

I believe medical doctors are allowed to use the title as a courtesy rather than ‘proper’ doctors who have a doctorate.

IDoLoveToBeBesideTheSeaside · 09/10/2018 17:01

No, I wouldn't correct one of my children's teachers. I don't have the same surname as my kids and have been called a variety of things throughout the years. They are trying. If they call me Mrs Coast instead of Ms Seaside I really don't care, as long as they are doing the right thing for my kids.

noctu · 09/10/2018 17:02

@Thisreallyisafarce I remember a teacher in my early secondary school years, correcting me from Mrs to Miss. It was something I remember quite vividly, as I remember thinking, why is it important? Then when I got home, I asked family about it and it was explained. I didn't think she was pedantic - just making it clear that she wasn't married, which is something she wanted to do. shrug

bastardkitty · 09/10/2018 17:02

It's a bit ridiculous. I don't like being referred to as Mrs and always corrected to my first name on school trips, but honestly, it's completely unnecessary to insist on Dr.

noctu · 09/10/2018 17:03

@MaxTeyon you are correct (assuming the medical doctor doesn't have a PhD, which a minority of them do)

KurriKurri · 09/10/2018 17:05

I don;t know why people are getting het up at the idea of someone using their correct title.
the OP has explained that the staff want to children to call the helpers mrs/ms/miss/whatever Jones - not by their first names, So everybody saying 'use your first name' is being irrelevant.

Op's title is Dr - a title she has earned (unlike titles such as Lord or Lady, Your Majesty etc.which are unearned but I bet people towards those who have them use without batting an eyelid).
Why does it matter if the Op is a medical Dr ? she is still entitled to the title doctor because she has a PhD. her title is not Mrs or Mr or Reverend or Princess or Her Holiness - it s Dr. noharder or longer to say than Mrs or Mr.

my title is Ms. Not Mrs which some people want to call me - i always correct them - no one minds being corrected, and i wouldn;t mind being corrected if I got someone's title wrong.

And one day children will be out in the big world where you need to be able to learn different forms of address - it's not going to blow thier minds to have the concept introduced in an everyday environment.

What comes over is a sort of sneering type of snobbery towards a woman daring to use an academic title as if a woman should keep her academic achievements and status quiet. Why should she ? Men don't. All the men I know who have the title Dr use it in every setting in which they are introduced by their surname.

I'd correct them OP - they are wrong, the children will cope just fine, and so will the teacher's unless they are hard of understanding.

squiggleirl · 09/10/2018 17:05

If asked for my title, I say Dr. However, if somebody assumes I'm Mrs, I don't correct them.

When I'm at the kid's school, I'm there as X, Y or Z's Mum. Whether I'm Mrs or Dr is irrelevant, so I don't make a deal out of it if someone calls me Mrs or Ms instead of Dr. The way I see it, I am both Mrs and Dr, and so long as someone isn't using a title in a nasty way, then I don't feel the need to tell them my preferred title.

I also disagree with the idea that using the tile 'Dr' for a woman shows boys that women can be assertive, respected, successful in their own right. Those things are not the preserve of those females who use the tile Dr. I'd like to think I was assertive, respected and successful prior to being known as Dr. Squiggleirl.

RainbowBriteRules · 09/10/2018 17:06

I’d rather have a medical doctor with me than some random person with a PhD any day of the week in an emergency, where they are a ‘proper’ doctor or not. Otherwise, unless it is a professional issue I have no interest in what your title is.

Want2beme · 09/10/2018 17:06

If you're a medical doctor, I'd say use it. At least you can be easily identified if someone needs medical assistance.

AeolineReed · 09/10/2018 17:08

I do have a title (Doctor), and am divorced. However, I seem universally to be known as Mrs. It doesn't bother me in the slightest.