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TrainsandDiggers · 09/10/2018 16:08

If your title was Dr and your child’s teacher kept referring to you as Mrs (a fair enough assumption on their part), would you correct them? And if you did, would you sound like you’re a bit up yourself? I’m aware of people correcting to Ms, Miss or Mrs, but not to anything else. TIA

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Helendee · 09/10/2018 18:10

Ok thank you Tippexy.

Bodear · 09/10/2018 18:11

You worked hard for the title, it IS your title so there’s nothing wrong with asking (nicely of course) for it to be used.

pallisers · 09/10/2018 18:15

It's also a real issue that woman who want to be referred to by their proper earned title are regarded as 'up themselves' in a way that a man just wouldn't be.

I would think any man who said "Dr Smith actually" when a teacher said "say hello to Mr. Smith children who will be helping us today at the zoo" was way far up himself. I'd probably judge him harder than a woman.

mikado1 · 09/10/2018 18:21

It reminds me a bit of Toss in friends always reminding the others of his PhD! A friend of mine put Dr O'N his wedding invite, everyone had a good laugh Inc himself! I've had a Dr (Dad) help out on a school trip but he was Mr X to the children, though they knew him as the local doctor, he was there in a 'dad' capacity. I don't think you're up yourself, just that maybe you haven't thought it through, or maybe I haven't (!); I didn't think one title was the limit.

LadyMonicaBaddingham · 09/10/2018 18:29

I work in a school - not as a teacher - and, despite being married, I prefer to be called 'Miss (first name)' as opposed to 'Mrs (surname)' I don't know why, particularly...

ChinkChink · 09/10/2018 18:30

I'd be more put out, OP, that they assumed your title to be 'Mrs'. Some female parents may rather be known as 'Ms', for instance.

If they want to use titles and surnames for parent helpers then they should be asking what title you use. And at that point you could say 'Doctor' without being thought of as wanky. Well, not by me anyway.

MaxTeyon · 09/10/2018 18:37

Why does it matter if the Op is a medical Dr ? she is still entitled to the title doctor because she has a PhD.

If the OP has a PhD then she’s technically more entitled to use the title than a medical doctor.

excitedalready2019 · 09/10/2018 19:09

PhD is an academic qualification

I have a masters in history. I don’t expect to be called “master”

A medical Doctor is a profession.

radioactiveimagination · 09/10/2018 19:10

I think you should definitely be known as 'Dr' to the kids especially, it would be a great example for the girls and I'm sure they would have questions about your job which may inspire them. I have a friend who is Dr but hesitates to use her title. Would a man deliberate over his title like that? Think not.

excitedalready2019 · 09/10/2018 19:14

think you should definitely be known as 'Dr' to the kids especially, it would be a great example for the girls and I'm sure they would have questions about your job which may inspire them.
There’s more female doctors than male

Bobbybear10 · 09/10/2018 19:15

I can see where you are coming from BUT I have known a few DR’s both male and female and they wouldn’t have used DR as a title outside of work.

I can’t help but think it’s a little bit like people putting letters after their name (outside of work and even sometimes at work) sounds a bit wanky.

I am perfectly prepared to be told I’m unreasonable but I would inwardly cringe at you correcting your title to DR outside of work but you do what makes you happy, you worked for it so you’re free to use it when and where you want.

lljkk · 09/10/2018 19:30

I tend to go by Mrs. (DH's name my children's name, so same name as the kids). I do like Dr. & think it's good to use it around kids b/c it suggests something aspirational. But I can't be arsed to make a fuss over it esp. as Dr. is in my not-married name.

If I ever corrected you & made you call me Dr., it probably means you've pissed me off. Grin

radioactiveimagination · 09/10/2018 19:38

Excited that's interesting. News to me. Where did you get that stat from?

KurriKurri · 09/10/2018 19:41

I have a masters in history. I don’t expect to be called “master”
That's because 'Master' isn't a title you receive when you get a Masters. It does entitle you to put MA after your name and if you wanted to do that you could. OP's title is doctor because she has a PhD (and as it happens a medical qualification, so she's entitled on 2 counts)

Academic titles and professional titles are both titles, a title being academic rather than professional does not invalidate it - I don't understand why you think it does, or why you make a distinction. Your Masters does not carry a title with it, - it is a lesser qualification than a PhD (albeit an admirable one)

KurriKurri · 09/10/2018 19:53

There’s more female doctors than male
Do you mean medical doctors or academic doctors or a combination of both (because we are discussing the academic title here - and the idea that women can earn the title doctor if they do higher academic study as a way of inspiring children).

Most children will be well aware that women can be medical doctors because they will very likely have been to the doctor or hospital at some point in their lives.

I not sure your figures are actually correct anyway - there are more female GPs than male, but in total I believe there are more male doctors, and in the specialities, and very senior roles men outnumber women quite substantially.

RainbowBriteRules · 09/10/2018 19:59

General practice is a speciality. It does it a massive disservice and suggests that being a GP is easy (it’s an awful job) to suggest it is.

There are certainly more women than men in med school and I think more women than men at F1/F2 level.

Most young primary age children will asssume ‘doctor’ means medical doctor regardless of whether that is actually the case.

RainbowBriteRules · 09/10/2018 20:00

That should say it does it a disservice to suggest it is NOT a speciality.

KurriKurri · 09/10/2018 20:19

Of course it doesnt suggest it is easy - what a ridiculous thing to say.
the title general Practitioner indicate that a GP does not specialise in one area of the body or one particular type of medicine, That doesn't mean anyone thinks it is a lesser job. How very odd that you think so.

Wednesdaypig · 09/10/2018 20:26

So why do we call GPs doctors? It would be more straightforward if they were just Mr/Ms Smith the GP and had the title of Dr if they had completed the necessary qualification like the rest of the professional world. Not the op's question I know but I like things being logical!
Would members of the armed forces use their title on a school trip? Or a reverend? Or are they not titles in the same way as Dr?

mikado1 · 09/10/2018 21:28

I've been thinking about this and growing up there were quite a few parents who were doctors, academic and medical, and you'd always call them Mr/Mrs/Ms X a Reverend is his/her whole life so I understand that more plus it's deferential I expect. A member of armed forces wanting to be called Captain on a school trip, would they?

noworklifebalance · 09/10/2018 21:53

Actually a PhD is the only true doctor; medical doctors may use the title as a favour to them, essentially! True fact

Medicine was one of the original doctoral degrees.

As aside, I strongly dislike being called Mrs husband's-surname. Before we got married I told him I would take his name if he took mine, as I belong as much to him as he does to me.
It really irks me when I am assumed to be Mrs Husband's-surname and prefer Ms Maiden-name.

noctu · 09/10/2018 22:09

@noworklifebalance do you have a source for that?

everythingthelighttouches · 09/10/2018 22:13

I use Mrs for my personal life, especially to do with my child. But, i have been into school to do science lessons and then i used Dr. Part of the reason for me going in is to encourage girls into STEM subjects.
My husband is an academic but prefers to use Mr outside of work.

MrsReacher1 · 09/10/2018 22:31

I answer to most things. Mrs Kids Name, (neither my "correct" title nor my name), Ms , Miss (especially used by children or non native speakers).

Just because you can use the title does not mean you have to.

I am of course Mrs Reacher MA, BA, BSc, LLb, Phd, NVQ level 3, 2 A-levels, 6 O-levels and 100m swimming badge. (Just so you know that I am worth more than you are - because you may be wonderful but you are not as educated as I am! So there! Grin )

Ohyesiam · 09/10/2018 22:33

@excitedalready2019 I helped out in a primary last year, and when a year 2 girl told me she was dressed up as a doctor, a boy told her she should be a nurse, because “men are doctors and girls are nurses”.
Didn’t think I’d hear that in 2017.