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To think I’ve accidentally brought from someone dodgy??

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sorryimgettingemotional · 08/10/2018 03:03

I went to view some Pomeranian puppies a few week ago and put a deposit on the one I fell in love with. Everything seemed legit, the guy selling them answered all my questions and was happy to be paid by a bank transfer so nothing rang any bells.

Since then though I have found another ad for a completely different litter of Pomeranian puppjes, I’d found my puppy I wanted by then so usually wouldn’t have looked but something was telling me to open the ad but now I wish I hadn’t as i can’t stop thinking of the worse case scenario.

When I opened the ad the rug stood out me and I couldn’t work out why until I realised it’s the same rugs they had in the house when I viewed my puppies, the more I scrolled through I started to think it’s actually the same place! Then I done a little digging and found out the person who I went to see and the person posting the ad have the same surname! The puppies will also be ready to leave within only a few days if each other.

Now, there is a reason why it may just be a coincidence (??) When I say house, they actually lived in some fancy kind of mobile home in a place where there are hundreds of the same kind of mobile home so it’s entirely possible that the inside would have have the same sort of flooring and kitchen and as they’re related they also had the same rugs and dog bed.

I am just not sure though. Have i been completely oblivious and too trusting and brought from someone dodgy? :( How do I even go about finding out. I pick my pup up on Friday so I just do not know what to do now!!! 😫

OP posts:
KC225 · 08/10/2018 03:28

Are you worried its puppy farmed dog? Did you see the mother with the puppies? Is he a registered breeder? You could check with The Pomeranian Club UK - just a quick google and they seem to have a Facebook page.

Good luck

ThisIsNotMyRealName1 · 08/10/2018 04:12

What do you think is dodgy about the seller? Is it because they've advertised in more than one place, or that there appears to be two litters?

penisbeakers · 08/10/2018 05:18

Smacks of puppy farm to me.

MissusGeneHunt · 08/10/2018 05:32

Worth doing the search for the Pomeranian Club UK and also the breeders on the Kennel Club. Does sound dodgy to me.

Pittcuecothecookbook · 08/10/2018 05:34

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StripySocksAndDocs · 08/10/2018 05:47

As I clicked on the title I hoped it would be anything but an animal. What checks did you do before you bought the puppy? Other than your questions being answered and bank transfer.

From what you've written, it does very much sound like a puppy farm.

DoYouLikeHueyLewisandTheNews · 08/10/2018 05:57

I take it you saw at least the puppy’s mother and found out where it would be getting its first jabs and microchip done before you take the pup home?

strawberrisc · 08/10/2018 06:15

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Mooster62 · 08/10/2018 06:15

i bought a kitten having visited the address, seen where the kittens were kept, inspected the mother and all the things you are supposed to do. The kitten came vaccinated and insured but when I came to pick him up the breeder wanted the transaction done as quickly as possible. They had left the bedroom doors open and you could see cages and cages of animals, all presumably for sale, I took the kitten, left and then called the RSPCA. By the time I drove back to London, I realised the kitten was very ill and rushed him straight to a vet. It was touch and go for a while but the kitten survived but I had a huge fight with Petplan to get them to pay out. They finally did and accepted that they should make more stringent checks before they offer insurance to breeders. The kitten is now a fully grown cat and a very much loved member of the family. The puppy you have chosen might well be from a puppy farm but these dogs need homes as well. If you fell in love with him, I would get him anyway, have him fully checked out by a vet and if still suspicious report it to the RSPCA.

AuntBeastie · 08/10/2018 06:29

That has all the signs of a puppy farm. Was the mother with the puppies when you viewed? How did she seem? And did the breeder ask you questions and want to know about your home? Responsible breeders don’t just let their puppies go to anybody so if they didn’t investigate you I would be concerned. I agree with PPs you should speak to the kennel club and if necessary the RSPCA (or SSPCA if in Scotland)

Mousetolioness · 08/10/2018 06:29

Well, you've paid your money and if it is a dodgy set up then you get your puppy checked over by your vet a.s.a.p and explain your concerns when making the appointment. Make sure you come away with vaccination records too. I'd contact the RSPCA if you find this isn't a registered breeder.

You say they answered all your questions but, just as important, did they ask you the right sort of questions?

adaline · 08/10/2018 06:38

The puppy you have chosen might well be from a puppy farm but these dogs need homes as well. If you fell in love with him, I would get him anyway

And this is exactly how puppy farmers manage to survive! People feel sorry for them, think they're "saving" the puppies and hand over their money. The farmers don't give a shit about the health of their dogs and that money will just go to lining their pockets. Meanwhile poor bitches and pups will continue to suffer because people want pets and want them now, and don't seem to give two shits about where they came from or the health of the mum, who will just be bred until she can't be bred anymore and then abandoned and left to die.

OP - why on earth did you buy a puppy you saw advertised on the internet?!

Branleuse · 08/10/2018 06:40

Have you paid?

vjg13 · 08/10/2018 06:48

You have bought a puppy farmed animal and are supporting this inhumane appalling industry. The people involved in this trade are adept at answering questions and even use fake mother dogs to mislead buyers.

Please contact your local council, RSPCA and do not collect this puppy.

Gaspodethetalkingdog · 08/10/2018 07:20

I know someone who bought one of these poor things and it died within a week. Report to the RSPCA as soon as posssible and look for a reputable breeder next time

WhoLetTheCatsOut · 08/10/2018 07:23

Does sound like a puppy farm, if not for the second ad but just how you found and bought your one initially.

Report to the RSPCA and see if they can do anything. If it was a bank transfer I'm not sure you can get your money back though.

adaline · 08/10/2018 07:25

And yes be prepared to keep throwing money at any animal you buy from a puppy farm.

Loads come riddled with fleas and worms, they haven't had vaccinations (even if the "breeder" claims they have) and many die from diseases like parvo as well.

If you want a pet, do your research and be prepared to wait months if not years for a puppy from a decent breeder. Good breeders don't sell their pets on gumtree - they don't need to - they have waiting lists that have most likely been in existence since before the pups were even conceived.

WTFIsAGleepglorp · 08/10/2018 07:28

Report to the RSPCA

MemoryOfSleep · 08/10/2018 07:30

To be fair, some legitimate breeders do advertise on the Internet. I'd call to arrange to view the second lot of puppies so you get the address. Then you'll know for sure.

ProfessorMoody · 08/10/2018 07:32

Did you find the puppies on any kind of advertisement like on Facebook/Gumtree/Pets4Homes? If you did, it's already dodgy and you need to walk away. Good breeders NEVER have to advertise, ever.

Did you see the mother? Know where the father is from? Did you view their health test certificates? Are both parents and the puppies KC Reg?

If the answer is no, they're dodgy. If the parents aren't health tested you'd be insane to buy a puppy.

Has the breeder told you that you'll have to sign a contract that includes endorsements and a clause saying that if you have to give up the puppy for whatever reason, it MUST be returned to them?

If the answer is no, you need to walk away. They're dodgy.

Please, please don't buy a puppy unless they've done everything above. There are so many reputable breeders out there who will support you, who have bred from fully health tested dogs and who will take the puppy back if there are any issues.

BluthsFrozenBananas · 08/10/2018 07:38

I have a Pomeranian, the fact you said “some” pomeranian puppies in your OP made me suspicious. Pomeranians generally have one or two puppies at a time, they don’t have big litters like other dog breeds so if you saw several puppies together the chances are they weren’t from the same mother.

Angelil · 08/10/2018 07:42

@strawberrisc

I see Britain's sense of anti-intellectualism is still thriving.

catshart · 08/10/2018 07:48

Definitely a puppy farm! I guarantee if you rang the person up it would be the same person. Happened to someone I know, 2 different numbers and they gave themselves different names. Also the dog came from a mobile home type place.
Please don't buy

strawberrisc · 08/10/2018 07:48

@Angelil I can be a grammar Nazi when it suits but in this case I didn’t feel that response was warranted.

Praisebe · 08/10/2018 07:49

If they were also holding viewings at a mobile home park then they have rented it purely to shift these pups. People don't live in mobile homes year round its not permitted