To think I’ve accidentally brought from someone dodgy??

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I went to view some Pomeranian puppies a few week ago and put a deposit on the one I fell in love with. Everything seemed legit, the guy selling them answered all my questions and was happy to be paid by a bank transfer so nothing rang any bells.

Since then though I have found another ad for a completely different litter of Pomeranian puppjes, I’d found my puppy I wanted by then so usually wouldn’t have looked but something was telling me to open the ad but now I wish I hadn’t as i can’t stop thinking of the worse case scenario.

When I opened the ad the rug stood out me and I couldn’t work out why until I realised it’s the same rugs they had in the house when I viewed my puppies, the more I scrolled through I started to think it’s actually the same place! Then I done a little digging and found out the person who I went to see and the person posting the ad have the same surname! The puppies will also be ready to leave within only a few days if each other.

Now, there is a reason why it may just be a coincidence (??) When I say house, they actually lived in some fancy kind of mobile home in a place where there are hundreds of the same kind of mobile home so it’s entirely possible that the inside would have have the same sort of flooring and kitchen and as they’re related they also had the same rugs and dog bed.

I am just not sure though. Have i been completely oblivious and too trusting and brought from someone dodgy? :( How do I even go about finding out. I pick my pup up on Friday so I just do not know what to do now!!! 😫

Well yes it does mean that. When I lived alone and worked full time I didn't have a dog, wouldn't have considered it.

No and that’s fine.

And if (say) your marriage ended and you had to go to work full time, would you have rehomed your dog?

If there were really no alternatives then yes. Many dogs come into rescue for exactly this reason :(

But many people would find alternatives - dog walkers being the obvious one

A little less dog-matism would go a long way. As to ‘rescuing’, I have two dogs that came my way aged 6 months because they were unwanted elsewhere. Only one of them has learned a proper recall. If you take an older rescue dog you’d better be ready for some behaviour issues. Before someone wades in and says training should also be done only by professionals (whole industry based around dogs, dammit), my other dogs, which I got as puppies, mainly from accidental litters (because not everyone likes to spay large breeds before maturity) don’t have that type of issue. All that to say that I can see why people who want a decent, manageable dog would want a puppy.

My friend is a registered breeder.

She has had 2 bitches catch at the same time so sold 2 different litters around the same time.

She also advertises online because that's where most people look for them.

It could be just that.

I'm Friday when you pick up your pup make sure everything is in place and you have all paperwork required.

If anything seems dodgy at all call RSPCA and they will go round to check.

Hannah. Two bitches don’t accidentally catch at the same time.
Advertising online screams that she’s not a reputable breeder.
RSPCA won’t give a shit unfortunately.
People who want to make money from their pets or who run puppy farms only care about the money. They will never change.
The only way to stop them is for people who want to buy a dog to start taking responsibility and actively seeking out the few responsible breeders. They need to be prepared to wait. To be turned down even. Many people aren’t.

A "registered breeder" means nothing. Any puppy farmer can be a registered breeder.

Advertising puppies online means you are not a good breeder. "Most people" don't look for dog advertisements online. Only people who want a dog NOW and don't care where from would purchase a dog online.

Ask yourself why your friend bred two litters. If she has been working hard importing dogs, researching the health problems and genetics of the breed, has exemplary show results from her two bitches to show that breeding from them will improve the breed, and that the stud goes with the bitch in the way that it will work towards eliminating health problems or improving on the breed standard, then perhaps that's OK, though breeding two litters at once is a huge red flag.

If she didn't do it for those reasons, your friends is a money grabber who doesn't give a shit about dogs.

HTH.

Registered breeder means nothing. It doesn't mean that person is ethical or not a puppy farmer! It means they breed enough litters a year to require a license - that's it.

Prof Moody
I had the breed for years and decided i would like to breed her also had some people after a puppy from mine the breeder for my dog lifted the endorsement of mine as I had all the tests done. Breed survey aint just about the looks its also about temperament etc its done by a qualified breed person. The breed i have is in a mess so many having tempermant etc. As for making money i didn't do it for that I am self employed so it went through the books also after all the tests i didn't have much left over. As for shows we did ok but not my thing

“I would like to breed her”
But why?
If I had a truly outstanding specimen and the necessary knowledge then maybe. But having had the breed for ages and having people willing to pay isn’t a very good reason.

Just a feeble excuse. There's no need to breed puppies because you just want to. Makes me sick.

Whoa, people.

If we looked for a minute at what breeders - presumably the ones you are holding up as ‘reputable’ have done to breeds, you might not feel so sick at the idea of people wanting a family-raised puppy from someone they know.

As I've already stated, reputable breeders are the ones making it their life's work to outbreed health problems in their breed, such as longer snouts in pugs etc. The reason those problems are there in the first place is because of idiots and puppy farmers breeding any bitch with any stud for a quick buck. Reputable breeders love their breed and want to improve it, not ruin it.

How would a "family-raised" puppy owner (whatever that might be ) know about the genetics, health issues and incorrect lineage, what stud would be best to use to eliminate blah and blah without years of research? They're just serving to continue the problems.

Also, improving the health problems in a breed takes decades, if not longer. Those issues you're seeing now in certain breeds were created many years ago and people have been working on them for lifetimes.

Family raised pup from a friend? If they don’t have the necessary health and breed knowledge then I would run a mile from this.
Good breeders want to make the breed healthier.

Did you get the dog, OP?

I stumbled upon a puppy farm last year. Literally. Had gone for a walk with my boys and we walked into a field (with a right of way) and there were about 20 or so caravans and outside many of them dogs were tethered and there were green garden boxes everywhere (with lids!). Some had pups in them. From the looks of it there were a lot of small dogs. I saw pugs and poms and some Jacks. It stank and as we approached it got louder and louder as they all went nuts.
We phoned the RSPCA when we got back to the car.
If there is even a slim chance it was this kind of set up and you love animals don’t do it OP.
Can you get your money back?