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To think this “hilarious” card is actually depressing?

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Decanter · 05/10/2018 00:55

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I have 2 DDs and hate how this kind of crap is being normalised. Fucking hilarious Layla Hmm

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Iused2BanOptimist · 09/10/2018 22:32

Not one 'reasonable person' has argued against anal sex - true - but it isn't the reasonable posters like you I'm trying to convince.

Who are you trying to convince and why?

TheDowagerCuntess · 10/10/2018 02:41

Let's face it, its not women asking men to do it caz it's so enjoyable.

Exactly.

Anal sex for men consists of pleasure + orgasm.

Anal sex for women consists of preparation (if you're lucky) + discomfort (at best) / pain (at worst) + possible pleasure + possible orgasm more than likely because some other body part entirely is simultaneously being stimulated.

Isn't it just such a 'happy' coincidence that so many women seem to like painful sexual experiences?

Straight men don't seem to be all that keen on pain, oddly enough.

They're more just up for pleasure + orgasm. Strange, that, especially given they have a prostate gland that's genuinely meant to make it enjoyable, and women don't. Hmm

This thread actually isn't about women who enjoy this particular act. They can crack on (no pun intended). Life's all good for them.

This thread is really about the women who don't enjoy it, who don't want to do it, and who are perhaps a bit curious as to why painful sex is so awesome for women, all the while (straight) men are only up for pleasant feeling sex.

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Lweji · 10/10/2018 09:23

I know far more people who are into pegging than male>female anal. And mostly the only people I know who are into it are gay and lesbian.

Aren't the two sentences contradictory?

TheDowagerCuntess · 10/10/2018 09:29

Why are you coming to the conclusion that people are having bad sex because they find one particular act painful and/or just don't want to do it?

And just as clearly as it must be pleasurable and not painful for many women - it is clearly not pleasurable and is painful for many women.

The anal sex men see in porn is portrayed just like PIV. Shove your dick in the hole, pump away, and Bob's your uncle.

That's not great for the cohort of women who do find it painful.

And no, lesbians don't do anal. Some lesbians do - the ones who don't find it painful and/or who like pain.

And more than likely they'll have a partner who'll work with them on it (all the prep that's needed). And, crucially, won't be penetrating them with an organ that will cause their own orgasm. If you're penetrating with an inanimate object, that's quite different from a penis that's building up to orgasm.

Again, the women who like it can get on with it - no-one's stopping anyone from experimenting sexually.

And mostly the only people I know who are into it are gay and lesbian.

Is this a typo? Because if not, you're kind of agreeing with me. I did say it seemed to be straight men that don't seem to be so keen on anything that might involve a bit of pain.

Lweji · 10/10/2018 09:40

Feeling sorry for people having heterosexual sex is the same as feeling sorry for those having gay sex. Hmm

I don't care if a male couple only has oral or anal or both or whatever they want.
Why would anyone feel sorry or care if I only have straight PIV sex (or not)?

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TheDowagerCuntess · 10/10/2018 10:26

It's not something that well adjusted people do imho

That's clearly not true. And I think undermines the argument.

BlancheM · 10/10/2018 11:02

Ah, someone woke has spoken. Give over with the condescending 'I'm sorry that...' we all live in the same world.

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BlancheM · 10/10/2018 11:35

I think you're quite sheltered if you believe only gay people engage in anal sex, on top of that, the ones you know who do are not unusual, but equally not representative of all gay people's sex lives.
If you really don't think it's not problematic then you are either ignorant or choosing to disbelieve that heterosexual anal sex is not only rooted in misogyny, but is currently being promulgated by it. Just because you are completely blind to toxic masculinity, doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

BlancheM · 10/10/2018 11:38

We're actually talking about two different things. And you're choosing to be offended by something which you've taken out of context.

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longwayoff · 10/10/2018 11:52

The card is grim as are its mates.

Bluelady · 10/10/2018 12:00

"Terrible sex with terrible men" - because some of us don't want anal sex and have partners who don't want it either? How bloody judgemental and patronising. You must be very young, karyatide, to come out with such bollocks.

It's really disheartening to see there are still apologists for male dominance. All those years of feminism for this. It saddens me.

Lweji · 10/10/2018 12:05

I said amomgst my personal circle of friends I mainly know LGB people, and that was in response to extreme homophobia and queer-erasure.

I'm sorry but, except one pp if I'm not mistaken, there's no "extreme homophobia" on the thread.
As for queer-erasure, it's perhaps not surprising that most heterosexual people talk mostly about heterosexual sex, or about anal in the context of heterosexual sex.
Surely there's no need to point out all other options and their uncle every single time we talk about anal, or in every single post.
It doesn't mean that people are ignoring all other options.
Most people's circle of friends don't include mostly LGB (you're forgetting a few letters there, it seems). Mine, for example, includes two, that I know of, with a range of assorted acquaintances. And I don't discuss sexual practices with them, or with heterosexual friends, for that matter.

And even for those who find anal sex disgusting, surely it's fine, as I find some foods disgusting. It doesn't mean that I find people who like those foods disgusting, as it surely doesn't mean that those people find gay people, or heterosexuals who do it, disgusting.
It's just personal taste.

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augustusglupe · 10/10/2018 12:24

Not offended here...but it’s certainly not funny, god I hate any kind of tits and arse humour anyway Hmm

Bluelady · 10/10/2018 12:27

Pot/kettle, karyatide, or have you forgotten your "terrible sex" comment already? You're one of the most judgemental on this thread.

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