To ask you: All In or All Out?

[Quietrebel]

All seems to indicate that it's now crunch time for the UK. In the style of another active thread, I'd like to ask you all what you'd go for if given a binary choice between No Deal at all with the EU or Remain.
No blame game or mud slinging, just simple polite answers please.

It depends on how individual MPs behave, at the end of the day. As Field and Hoey have shown, just being "in" a party doesn' t mean you are the party. Maybe it's crass to suspect that Tory MPs are a tad more self-serving than MPs of other stripes. But not all "Tory" MPs - especially the younger ones - are willing to watch their future prospects vanish in a fog of Brexit by not supporting an election. Even if they are whipped not to.

The real question is would an election - before a no-deal, or after a no-deal deliver a majority government ? The 2017 election proved to be a cataclysm for the Tories, losing them a majority which would have avoided the past 15 months of shit. And there's still no real suggestion that an election at any time since would have delivered a different result.

The old adage about armies being equipped to fight the last war translates into politics too. All parties are really reflecting the makeup of the electorate 20 years ago. I've got older T-shirts fgs.

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6252811/Juncker-appears-MOCK-dancing-stage-delivers-speech-Brussels.html

Alternatively, Juncker could just be doing what so many other world leaders have done long before Teresa May got it into her head to dance onto a stage.

Normal people: Oh look, old man sticks out elbows and sways side to side three times in that awkward interlude when background music is playing as he comes on stage...
Permanently outraged Daily Mail readers: It's an outrage. He is mocking our entire country. This is a perfect example of why we must leave the EU

*Permanently outraged Daily Mail readers: It's an outrage. He is mocking our entire country. This is a perfect example of why we must leave the EU

100% remain

There's no mistake about his intent.
That's your opinion. Mine is different.
Of course he might just be drunk.
Could be.

To be fair Junker looks like my Dad when he comes back from the toilet in the pub and he recognises the tune on the jukebox, does a bit of a shimmy then gets distracted trying to remember where he left his pint

Remain.

Why shouldn't Mr Junker be a little happy. It's not his country that is about to go down the toilet. The Brexit disaster is not of his making. Mrs May and the Tories, or in fact most UK politicians on the other hand, have a lot to answer for.

Brilliant Frumpety, totally agree. Thought May was brilliant, she got loads of publicity and took a lot of crap but hey, well done. Junker just went with it.

The Brexit disaster is not of his making. Don't you understand that people voted Leave because of people like him. It was an emotional reaction. He's a corrupt idiot. I voted Remain with a cool head but he makes my blood boil.

Remain

Not sure why people are answering with leave...i didnt think that was the actual question?

It doesn't matter what the question (fact, outcome, etc) is - the answer is always leave hence the position we're now in. Leave is 'undefined'.

Dexra so what has Juncker done that is so bad ? In comparison to our own dear Government ?

jason

Yes 'leave' is undefined

But the OP asked a specific question

I always think its quite polite to answer the question thats been asked not go off piste

Although to be fair ive skim read OPs many times and missed quite pertinent details

www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/jul/12/why-good-europeans-despair-jean-claude-juncker-commission

Luxembourg - population about 590,000

The average salary in Luxembourg is 4308 € per month, according to the national statistics office of Luxembourg (Statec). this represents a 59.4% increase since 1995.

Think its about £2,300 in the UK ?

Dexra I imagine the people of Luxembourg speak more fondly of him or maybe not