AIBU to feel a lot of sympathy for Lily Allen?

[longwayoff]

The description of her childhood in her recent memoir sounds horrible and extremely damaging. As described, her self indulgent showbiz parents may have paved the way for her in her career but seem to have failed on every other level. Very depressing, I hope she gets a good therapist.

Its difficult to find sympathy for someone that pretends to be holier than thou, then gets caught out lying and blames others for her mistakes then admits to using other people.

Spends a lot of time berating others for doing things then does those same thing themselves.

Hypocrisy is not a trait that people love.

Pawnee oh did you, right.

Yes, I quite clearly did.

She's too annoying for me to feel sorry for her.

Alright Pawnee calm down, it's no biggie, I misunderstood.

AtLastAPlan

I thought what pawnee meant was clear enough.

I am calm. It seems like you wanted to point score and failed, and continued to try and point score I don't understand your issue, in doing a "calm down dear" retort you are again trying to point score to save face. Let it go.

No point scoring, no, not everything is a game. I though it was funny, that's all. Don't take it so personally.

I'm backing away now Pawnee, you seem really pissed off that I misunderstood your sentence. I just thought it was funny that I got it so wrong. Have a nice evening.

No that's not what I was pissed off by. I think it's best all round we don't continue the conversation. Have a good evening.

@PawneeParkDept you put it so much better than I could, my sentiments exactly.

Basically I just wish she’d go away.

She's on Jonathan Ross now.

Ahh she’s laughing and joking about the whole using sex workers phase so all sympathy is gone. No shame, no thought for the poor sex worker herself, just “I’m mad me”.

The sex worker who either needs money for food or rent or drugs

As Shakespeare said

"My poverty but not my will consents"

Tell us again how you understand hardship...

Just seen her on Jonathan Ross. She’s had a bad childhood but I found it vile when she was talking about sex workers. If she was a man people wouldn’t have found it funny. Like a PP said, no regard for the sex workers at all.

And she was sat next to Jason Manford who was (rightfully) vilified for messaging a babestation woman was it(?) whilst his wife was at home with the kids. He at least had the decency to be remorseful afterwards, not laughing about it and treating it as a humorous anecdote.

I wouldn’t believe anything she says. She’s a fantasist.

She brushed over her childhood as well.

I felt sorry for her for the stillbirth which is all I really knew about her but the sex worker thing has put me right off her - I don’t understand how that can ever be anything other than a total sleazebag move.

YABU. Not content with creating a car crash of her own life, she then seeks to publicly name indiscretions of others. What a lovely woman she is.

She speaks on behalf of the country who didn’t ask her to, about the hardship of the Calais refugees; she speaks about exploitation. She then uses prostitutes. Can’t tske her seriously, she’s a hypocrite who fucks up and then turns on the tears.

She’s utterly deluded: few give a shit about her or her opinion. In the words of Nikki Graham from big brother “who is she, who is she anyway”.

Answer: a nobody whose ensured her own children will have many an issue of their own in future.

Nice louboutins though.

She is the first person to say that hard times are a spectrum and she’s had it pretty easy in some ways. The idea that because she has the money for therapy and therefore shouldn’t complain is repugnant.

She’s a spoilt luvvie. Hanging out with “cool” people, benefiting from huge priveledge whilst pretending she’s down with the poor. The phrase virtue signalling could have been invented for her.

There is a lot of vitriol here. It must take a lot of energy to have such negative feelings about someone you’ve never met. I don’t really have a strong opinion about her either way tbh. I did hear her interview on Woman’s Hour though earlier. She has been through an absolutely heartbreaking experience with her first child. I would not wish that on anyone. That experience alone would negatively impact anyone’s mental health, no matter what their childhood was like, or how rich they were. I applaud her for speaking about this experience. We need to talk more about the impact of miscarriage and stillbirth. If it starts more of a conversation about this important issue, then that must be a good thing.

I can only imagine the devastating impact a very traumatic stillbirth might have on your romantic relationship and the relationship you have with any other children. It must be hard for everyone involved.