To ask you to care that ANOTHER paedophile MALE who targeted girls, who claims to be a woman has been moved to a woman's prison. Having got a GRC IN PRISON FFS

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The title says it all..

He targeted young girls and married a convicted paedophile (who is now released) wonder what he is up to now?
www.thesun.co.uk/news/7281372/transsexual-paedophile-moved-womens-prison/

Why are we letting this happen? He is not female. A GRC or gender dysphoria is no bar to commtting sex offences against women and girls. Why is it males doctors who allow the GRC? And male judges who allow the transfers to be made?

Do you want these crimes being recorded as being committed by women? These men identify as women, not with women, but what does their behaviour show of their true gender, their behaviour, their sex?

www.thesun.co.uk/news/7281372/transsexual-paedophile-moved-womens-prison/

Also Stephen Wood/Karen White www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/09/06/transgender-person-accused-rape-remanded-female-prison-sexually/ a repeated rapist of women including a disabled girl, who then assuated 4 women in a women's prison.

Oh and Martin Ponting/JessicaWinfield www.thesun.co.uk/news/7281372/transsexual-paedophile-moved-womens-prison/

And countless others www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3337063-RESOURCE-THREAD-Transwomen-in-Women-s-Prisons

This not at all the same as gay rights or lesbian rights. It has nothign to do with being fun and wearing nail varnish.

Many transgendered males are causing harm to women and girls, and also seeking to hide their brith sex and sexual crimes. I cannot find the link right now but on the Feminism Chat board there is a link to a trans gender male who wants to have crimes recorded when he was a man erased so that no one looking at his criminal history will know he is born a male. This will set a dangerous precedent that could include wiping rape (a crime that can only be committed with a penis so is indicative of the true sex of the offender) from the crimes of a transgendered male.

Trans acitivsts openly admit to using litiagtion to furhter their casue away form the public spotlight. This is not human rights, this is the cynical abuse and manipulation of the human rights movement, and the compassion of many everyday people.

oh and David Challenor a paedophile who dressed up ain an adult nappy and girls clothes to abuse and torture a real young girl Independent after being convicted of cruelty to animals and having his children taken into care. He was also a scout elader and gynatics coach. AND GREEN PARTY ACTIVIST who campainged with the adult child for males who identify as women to be housed in women's prisons.

And whose child Aimee Challenor (aged 20 ish now) a former Green Party activist is a male who identifies as trans and as a woman, but also wears adult nappies, and has a sexual fetish for dressing as a 'cute' animal and identitfies as being of other ages and is in polyamorous relationships with other trans people with the same fetishes, who was recently suspended from the Green Party for using thier father as their election agent AFTER their father was charged. The Times

No doubt Aimee came from a terrible upbringing, being taken into care etc, but can we really say that being trans is always innate and benign as activists claim? Does it really have nothing to do with upbringing or possible historical abuse/ neglect etc? Or for girls the pressures of sexual harrasment and constant sexualising and feminsing of women?

Stonewall are campaigning to have the trans umbrella cast ever wider and to allow self ID to that any man may say he is a legal woman.

Please THINK women and men of AIBU.

ThatEscalated

Also yes not all men are rapists, but all rapists are men, under UK law at least

Yes, that's true, but already we know that crimes committed by men are being reported by the media, and recorded by the police, as having been committed by women. How can we understand patterns of criminal behaviour, and who is likely to be a victim of crime, if we can't accurately define man and woman?

Bump

Thank you all for being here.

A dangerous, predatory paedophile who grooms vulnerable teenage girls has been moved out of a specialist sex offenders prison, and instead placed in a prison which houses vulnerable teenage girls.

YY. It is astounding.

Just to add also, that it isn't only that the women in the prison are at risk of physical assualt by these males, it is the psycholgical grooming that they may be subjected to. We aren't given assurances that the males are kept in strict isolation during the lenght of their sentence. Indeed many of them will be released at some point. Indeterminate sentences are not the norm. The women in prison are already vulnerable, very frequently having suffered sexual abuse and domestic abuse. They could easily be groomed by these males. Hell they may have been abused by someone just like them. Is that not torture? Cruel and unusual punishment as the USA have it?

Not to mention that to force women to call this male a woman is state sponsored psychological coercion.

This bears little resemblance to the situation of the character in Orange is the New Black, who is a very sympathetic and nonviolent character (and had had the full genital operation) who does raise our compassion, BUT is ultimately still a male, and without getting to know them which may be too late, how the hell does any woman know what they are like.

We are not choosing who can be a woman based on niceness. Obviously. Dangerously. THERE IS EFFECTIVELY NO GATEKEEPING OR SAFEGUARDING.

No no no fuck this just no

Why are the authorities saying yes yes awesome?

Just shows that women are still considered a subclass and transwomen are not actually considered to be women.

In response to my growing fears over the proposed changes to the GRA, about how TRAs are behaving generally and to this thread and its story in particular...I have just found out my MPs email address and sent him an email.

I have emailed my MP (again). Let's see if I get a response this time.

I would say that if we can follow up emails with letters, just in case email get bounced into spam folders (or can claim to have been bounced she said cynically)

Will do!. Got the bit between my teeth now

Well I've had an automated response to it so he can't claim that!

Oh yes! My latest email is definitely being followed by hard copy, through the post, accompanied by info from FPFW, special delivery. That will be followed by me in person.

I am about ready to chain myself to railings outside Downing Street.

FUCK. THIS. SHIT.

Is it true that prison has a mother and baby unit?

Whaaat?! I find this very concerning.

The problem is that environmental activists and LGB advocates are usually also pro trans!

(Btw, I'm not anti trans. I just don't think that "gender" should matter legally. Or be taken into account when someone was convicted as a male. Or female.)

Unfortunately my MP has already made it very clear that she - she ffs - supports trans. I could email her again just to check that she really wants women to be locked up with rapists, but I doubt I'd get a decent reply. Anyone else I could complain to?

But a source said: “A lot of the women are genuinely terrified of her. Lewin’s a serious sex offender and she’s physically much stronger.

“There are female inmates in there who have been raped and they are scared of her.”

Absolutely disgusting. This male should be given the choice to remain in a male prison or solitary confinement.

No words. Mention your Trans, and all safeguarding goes out of the window, its the buzz word.

Email her again, point out she’s wrong. Also email the opposition in your area find out what they think and point out this is a deal breaker on who gets your vote.

I can try. Sadly these people just do not want to hear or see reality. They're like the three monkeys pretending that evil does not exist.

Then the opposition need to use the information that they have no critical thinking skills to take her seat at the next election.

What’s her majority?

I can't remember who it is but you can require your MP to pass your letter on to the woman in charge of the consultation. They have to apparently. Sure someone will be along in a moment to tell you who.

They'll tear him apart won't they?

Yes. Because women in prison are violent animals and a terrible danger to incarcerated men So we don't need to worry about it at all.

And that's why it did not happen that violent sex offender who had been transferred to a women's prison was convicted of assaulting four of them last week.

If you want to see some of the other scary things that are happening and are making an atmosphere where this is happening try www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3348290-It-will-never-happen-resource-thread?pg=1&order= . There's a reason we are going on about it.

A dangerous, predatory paedophile who grooms vulnerable teenage girls has been moved out of a specialist sex offenders prison, and instead placed in a prison which houses vulnerable teenage girls.

Wow. I can't even. What fuckwit signed off on that, when we are always being told by TRAs that there are exemptions which can be used even against males with gender recognition certificates where the need is "proportional and legitimate"?

It is both proportionate and legitimate if you think men are much much more important than women and girls.

Certain

They'll tear him apart, won't they?

It's interesting that. They (women) won't tear him apart. But it will be argued that the men in the men's prison might. So there we have it... to protect a rapist from other men, we put them amongst women.

They care so very very little about women.

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3369292-The-Scottish-Prison-Service-has-not-assessed-the-impact-of-including-transwomen-in-the-female-estate-on-female-prisoners

The Scottish Prison service has also not bothered to ask women prisoners, women's groups - women generally about the impact of including male-bodies prisoners in women's prisons