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Pansexual? AIBU to not understand how this isn't different to Bi?

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GoatWoman · 13/09/2018 22:34

I really don't understand this new phenomena and I feel completely ignorant.
In my day (80's - 90's), if not having a sexual preference you termed yourself bisexual. Not that anybody has to classify themselves at all.

But recently I hear more of pan-sexual. What on earth does it mean? The only explanation I've heard is that they choose the mind over biology. Isn't that what everyone does?

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ChocolateDoll · 13/09/2018 22:52

Could save some pennies mind, if you were lucky enough to find a Tesco Value Non-Stick that identifies itself as a La Creuset.

BigBumandMumTum · 13/09/2018 22:53

Bi means 2.
There's more than 2 now

GoatWoman · 13/09/2018 22:53

Yes but Q is now being added on to LGBT? I mean wtf?

I had to stop. Y boss the other day referring to a patient as coloured. It wa hideous and embarrassing.

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argumentativefeminist · 13/09/2018 22:54

Queer is sometimes also used to refer to people with kinks or fetishes, but tbh if a straight person started proclaiming "I'm here and I'm queer" because they liked a cheeky bit of bondage, I'm not sure it would go down awfully well.

TheWinterofOurDiscountTentsMk2 · 13/09/2018 22:54

Bi means 2....There's more than 2 now

Well yeah but no. Seriously, no. There are still 2.

FrancisCrawford · 13/09/2018 22:55

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NotTheFordType · 13/09/2018 22:56

Oh god.
Pan is "just anything please"
I do indentify as queer though

BigBumandMumTum · 13/09/2018 22:56

In the lgbt+ community there's more than 2.
Maybe not in yours.

TheWinterofOurDiscountTentsMk2 · 13/09/2018 22:58

In the lgbt+ community there's more than 2.Maybe not in yours

There isn't. Community or no community, the science is the same. And why assume I am not part of that community? Hmm

argumentativefeminist · 13/09/2018 22:59

Francis Its supposed to mean something sweet and twee and waffling about you wanting to date/have sex with someone because they're a nice person regardless of gender, rather than because they're an x gender and you're a y.

But I've never really thought that explanation made much sense or carried much weight, even when I described myself as pan, because surely thats what most people do? For me and for most people I know (though obviously I can't generalise) choosing pan over bi is a political semantic choice rather than actually representing a different way of falling in love/lust.

MrsStrowman · 13/09/2018 22:59

I get that no means the person identifies that they are attracted to either of a binary gender structure, pan-sexual recognises and is attracted to, gender fluid, trans, male, female and any other identification, so what's omni-sexual?

MrsStrowman · 13/09/2018 23:00

*bi means, not no means...

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GoatWoman · 13/09/2018 23:00

Ok I really need help categorising myself as I simply don't understand all of this.

In my youth I experimented having sex with women, but I've decided for now that I prefer it with my current male partner. I'm delighted to have my daughter but hate the menopause and reject anything that is stereotypically designed to sexualise me such as make up and high heels and tight clothing.

As far as love goes, I love and would have married my horse. He was the love of my life.

Am I pan? If not, what am I?

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GoatWoman · 13/09/2018 23:05

Do you think I should start a campaign to add the B to LBGTQ?
I mean I never wanted to have sex with my horse but I did give him more kisses than anyone other than my daughter.

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mrssparkle123 · 13/09/2018 23:05

@theOtherPamAyres 😂👌

FrancisCrawford · 13/09/2018 23:05

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argumentativefeminist · 13/09/2018 23:06

MrsStrowman Pan and omnisexual are really largely the same. I've literally never heard someone use omnisexual in real life, and I know a lot of queer people. But from a quick Google, it seems that omnisexual people distinguish it like this: pan people say "I am attracted to this type of person, this type and this type and this type" for the various different gender presentations that they're attracted to. Whereas omnisexual people claim not to see/pay attention to/define their sexuality in relation to gender at all. All humans are just humans, and some of them are hot.

Francis Some people define bisexual as "both sexes", some as "two genders", and the gender side is where the split into pan etc. emerges. We can argue the merits of each until the cows come home, but that's where it comes from.

Goat Its never useful to label other people, but I'd say you're bi if you still think women are hot. Pan has nothing to do with your horse, but I'm glad you loved him.

GoatWoman · 13/09/2018 23:07

Let's get some ALPHABET just for us Francis!

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MIdgebabe · 13/09/2018 23:10

They are bringing back pan's people? Which channel?

Letshopeitsallok · 13/09/2018 23:10

@Sodthebloodylotofthem

DH was reading me this description this of a le crueset roasting dish in an M&S food advert voice. It’s practically pornographic.

www.lecreuset.co.uk/rectangular-roaster-1

You’re welcome!

PigletJohn · 13/09/2018 23:11

"Pan" means "all" so it must surely be a term for people who have sexual inclinations towards men, women, sheep, fire engines, trees, toasters, milk bottles, fruit and vegetables, and anything and everything in this world and beyond..

If not, then it must be a word whose meaning is limited only by the person using it.

coldrain2018 · 13/09/2018 23:11

This generation, like every generation before it, truly believe that they are the first people ever to invent sex.

I don't know where they think all the previous generations have come from...

FrancisCrawford · 13/09/2018 23:12

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Didactylos · 13/09/2018 23:12

isnt pansexual when you know how to wok this way?