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To target a politician’s children is UNREASONABLE!

242 replies

Blinkingblimey · 12/09/2018 13:16

Just that. Not a fan of Rees-Mogg but no child should EVER be targeted so horribly anywhere, let alone on their doorstep. I am just so shocked that anyone thinks this is ok.

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LongWeek · 13/09/2018 13:00

Tbh I didn’t chose to be the wife of a politician, but as an adult I can choose whether to be photographed etc. I have to protect my kids.

If people want to shout at me because of my husbands job, or say horrible stuff about me on social media (which they sometimes do) I can cope. But children should be off limits.

Backintimefortea · 13/09/2018 13:01

using Corbyn's parenting decisions in an argument is nowhere the same as telling Corbyn's son that his dad is a horrible man in a direct confrontation, those two situations are totally and utterly dissimilar.

If you were using the fact that JRM has a nanny for his children in an argument you might have a point there.

LongWeek · 13/09/2018 13:02

So user do you think that because MPs work for you it’s acceptable to have protesters outside their houses?

TheLastNigel · 13/09/2018 13:08

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JacquesHammer · 13/09/2018 13:09

By the way also the press are quite happy to use Jeremy Corbyn's child going to Grammar school, even though he was against it, to constantly attack his stance on education

Comments in a press are far removed from attacks on a child in person.

Bluelady · 13/09/2018 13:10

None of this is acceptable and it's been denounced right across the political spectrum as it should be. No MP's family is fair game for this kind of abuse, no matter how abhorrent their politics.

user1471450935 · 13/09/2018 13:44

Longweek
I don't know, I think I will leave, my wife works for our local police service, one of her colleagues died on way to work, staff not officer, 36 months later there is still no replacement, your MP friends have slashed funding, so 3 staff working 12 hour shifts covering 4 peoples jobs, backing up front line coppers, my kids see less of her because she has to do overtime so they can have days off. Fair on my KIDS?
Your Husband's profession decided to pay hard working police officers 2% this week, not the three % they should get
Fair on their kids?
Finally we know 4 police officers who have died defending the public, fair on their kids?
Crocodile tears,
I know 3 kids who cant go to local schools because their mum works in SS, and they are at danger, no tears for them.

I am sorry you feel your kids are disadvantaged my their dads job, so are 1000's of others, like mine, because MP's vote to sh1t on their parents, I am truly sorry your kids are targets, but I know 100's worse off because off your DH's actions, they are the ones I cry for, especially at their dads and mums funerals.

Like I said I will back away now, I should never have joined, so sick off MP's paying lip service to emergency services one minute, then bloody p1ssing on them from a great height when they go back to their day jobs
Sorry I hope your DH and kids are safe, nothing worse then losing family Flowers

SoupDragon · 13/09/2018 13:53

I know 100's worse off because off your DH's actions

How do you know what her DH’s “actions” are?

Bluelady · 13/09/2018 14:13

User, you're being massively unfair. You have no idea what party Longweek's husband represents, for all you know he could have spent the last eight years opposing austerity. Even if he hasn't, it's not her fault and she doesn't deserve you haranguing her.

Everanewbie · 13/09/2018 14:56

All this talk about shafting people, being despicable etc. seems unfair to me. Politicians have to decide where to apportion money. If grant emergency services a pay rise then that is less money for libraries etc. If we borrow more we pay more interest on the debt and threaten our credit worthiness which would increase this more. If we raise taxes we risk stagnating the economy, deflation and brain drain. Different parties and individuals within parties have different views on where the priority lies and where the balance point is. That is why we have elections-to see where what direction the country wants to go, and who we want taking these decisions.

I'm not defending any decisions in particular, but left, right. centre, whatever, difficult decisions are taken every day that will never please everyone. There are some bad eggs, but on the whole they are decent people. They don't deserve personal attacks, and their children certainly don't.

LooLaaToo · 13/09/2018 14:59

Put it this way, would any of you walk up to a random 6 year old and say his dad is a nasty man and lots of people don't like him? I am guessing you wouldn't. It's a shameful way to behave and totally unnecessary. I am not a JRM fan either.

user1471450935 · 13/09/2018 15:07

Last ever post on here.
Possibly MN. I realise people like my working class family aren't welcome.
Its okay you have made it perfectly plain my kids and 1000s like them are worth less then JRM's and other politians. Yes but its okay to vote through your own 15% payrise

I.get it we are uneducated scum, only good enough to die for the safety of you lot. Got it bye.

Everanewbie · 13/09/2018 15:16

user1471450935 The long good bye. is that the 3rd or 4th time you've been going, put fired off another parting shot?

This is not a question of 'what about?' It's a shame you don't feel valued, but being abusive to someones kids is not going to solve things. Make a good argument about why you deserve a larger slice of the pie without assuming everyone who disagrees is out to get you.

SoupDragon · 13/09/2018 15:16

I realise people like my working class family aren't welcome.

🙄 do you want some salt and vinegar to go with that huge chip on your shoulder?

You clearly have no idea what MN is like or who the people are.

FlipnTwist · 13/09/2018 15:19

so politics should never come before the wellbeing of a politician's children, just everybody else's .

LongWeek · 13/09/2018 15:20

Right. Ok.

Not sure I said anything about working class people not being welcome. Or about the emergency services. Or their pay.

(And just whole we’re on pay, MPs can’t vote on their own pay any more- they get no say in how much they are paid)

I’m sorry if I upset you user. I’m not sure what I said. I wasn’t saying that there aren’t other kids who are affected by their parents’ jobs. I was just giving a view of what it’s like being married to an MP.

Everanewbie · 13/09/2018 15:27

FlipnTwist I think decent humans can differentiate between a persons political views and their private family life.

JRM does not (to my knowledge) promote sacrificing your first born, or workhouses, just a tighter grip on welfare spending and wants work to pay. Argue that this isn't fair, and that resources should be redirected, tax rises etc. but to label him the childcatcher and say that his kids are fair game because someone else has had a hard time is ridiculous.

JacquesHammer · 13/09/2018 15:28

I think I will leave

Like I said I will back away now

Last ever post on here

Got it bye

Do you need help finding the “delete account” button?

YeTalkShiteHen · 13/09/2018 15:35

I don't actually think he's that horrible as a person - Mhairi Black of the SNP says they're quite good friends yet I imagine they couldn't be further apart on the political spectrum

She didn’t. She said that she could listen to him all day because he’s so knowledgable and polite, despite disagreeing with 99.9% of what he says. She didn’t say they were friends.

user nobody that I’m aware of has agreed with Corbyn’s child being brought into it either. The general consensus seems to be that children should always be left out of it, which is right.

Absolutely no idea where you got the idea that working class people (I am one!) are unwelcome. People making sweeping statements and advocating the verbal attack of children because of who their father is may find themselves unwelcome, but to be honest, given your attacks on another poster, you’ve only yourself to blame.

YeTalkShiteHen · 13/09/2018 15:38

so politics should never come before the wellbeing of a politician's children, just everybody else's

Oh don’t talk pish. Anyone who is supposedly defending the children harmed (yes, harmed) by Tory policies while simultaneously agreeing with the abuse aimed at Rees Mogg’s children is an absolute hypocrite.

Yes, he is an absolute scumbag, he has no morals and if his children emulate him as adults they will have become odious adults.

But if you advocate terrifying small children because their father is a prize prick, I don’t think that makes you any better than him tbh. It’s just different children.

FlipnTwist · 13/09/2018 15:41

so politics should never come before the wellbeing of a politician's children, just everybody else's

To clarify this was tongue in cheek.I had forgotten mn was so literal! Of course haranguing a 6 yo is wrong ffs

Everanewbie · 13/09/2018 15:52

YeTalkShiteHen why do you think JRM is a scumbag? Do you think his views/votes in parliament come from malice or just a different view point?

Personally i reserve phrases like that for muderers, rapists, dictators, terrorists and such like, not a politician who's views I disagree with.

ThreeAnkleBiters · 13/09/2018 15:54

Well there has been a sustained attack on the children of the poor and disabled, so I suppose it's thought of "why should they live in peace".

They should live in peace because they're children. Can't stand JRM - odious human being but his children and their nanny should never ever be targeted.

YeTalkShiteHen · 13/09/2018 16:05

Everanewbie because he is (along with his party) responsible for a government which targets the poorest, most vulnerable and anyone with a disability and has made many thousands of people’s difficult lives more difficult with no way out of the situation.

Because morally he doesn’t give a shiny shite about what is right, or decent, only the sound of his own voice and his own opinion.

Because he is smug about not being a hands on father, and sees parenting as wife work.

Because of his ignorant, uninformed and frankly fucking dangerous comments and opinions around the Irish/Northern Irish border, and the fact that despite being told why it’s such a contentious and painful issue for many in Northern Ireland and Ireland he doesn’t care.

So aye, inserting yourself into a position of power over people you don’t give a shit about so that you can enjoy the trappings of an elite existence while making many thousands of people destitute warrants the term scumbag imo.

You are, of course, entitled to your own opinion as well.

Ohyesiam · 13/09/2018 16:09

He has the morals of a sewer rat, but his children don’t need shouting at.