This tweet from South Yorkshire Police...

[SunsetBeetch]

It's batshit, right? And rather frightening. Seriously, Orwell could have written it.

"In addition to reporting hate crime, please report non-crime hate incidents, which can include things like offensive or insulting comments, online, in person or in writing. Hate will not be tolerated in South Yorkshire. Report it and put a stop to it #HateHurtsSY"

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I heard a great interview on the radio the other day. They were talking about how our current obsession with not offending anyone has almost cancelled out our freedom of speech.

This is a very good example of it.

Someone opinion might differ from others but we as often too concerned to voice our opinions for fear of some poor snowflake being offended

Oh,OK, just read the little box bit in red! That makes a bit more sense. No,it's not OK to abuse people/individuals for their sexuality, gender, race

It doesn't say sex though does it?

So no sexism is included.

It doesn't say sex though does it? So no sexism is included.

That's alright by me, the day I get offended enough by a "get back in the kitchen" or a horn honking as I walk down the street enough to call the police over it is the day I give myself a mental shake and tell myself to get a grip.
Sorry.

That's alright by me, the day I get offended enough by a "get back in the kitchen" or a horn honking as I walk down the street enough to call the police over it is the day I give myself a mental shake and tell myself to get a grip.

Good grief.

I called dh a stupid man this morning and I’m being a bit shouty atm. In my defence, I had my ovaries removed recently and hrt is a bit miss rather than hit right now. Luckily I don’t live in S Yorkshire otherwise I could be in big trouble.

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Yy to this!

The tweet, and a couple of others iirr, were posted following an incident in Barnsley the day before. A woman was arrested in connection with the stabbing of a male in the centre. The related twitter stuff was very much about the woman being asian, in asian clothing, shouting various phrases, with possible accomplices, and was being shouted about on Twitter, following someone's ;witness' tweet about it being a terrorist attack.

So, I think the tweets were in relation to these tweets and comments being posted on Twitter at the time.

Whilst not great tweets in themselves, I think they were trying to stem the flow of the racism on their other tweets about that incident.

I've just made a crime report about being called a Ninnyhammer.

They are written in connection to the very negative comments on Twitter regarding this incident iirr.

Oooh can I report a road rage incident? Followed me, demanded I roll my window down so they could hurl abuse, got out of their car and dragged my car door open demanded I got our to fight when I chose to ignore.

Police said it’s not a crime as they didn’t hurt me and didn’t damage my car.

I wish they’d wanted non-crimes reporting a week ago, trust me to miss out 🤦‍♂️

I suppose it is all quite amusing and ridiculous if you don't have to live round here among the undercurrent of racism/brexit 'them and us' feeling. the Barnsley incident, the awful things people feel free to say online about Sheffield's mayor (partly fed by disgraceful dog whistle type stuff in the local paper), women in hijabs being spat and sworn at. hahahahahaha though eh, how stupid the police are for trying to create a climate where this type of thing may be unacceptable behaviour. oh my sides

Well I live in S Yorkshire and considering my ex got yelled at and abused by a W full of people the other day while holding our small
Daughter because he's a Paki then I say go for it SYP. What that woman behind the counter did and led wasn't a "crime" so it's fine? Only perhaps if she did it enough times and it was called in enough times then a pattern could emerge that a quiet word might shut down?

SYP stayed up through the night to find and interview the guy who beat and raped me, and while the case is slow because of how totally underfunded they are, I don't doubt they will try their best.

Ok so I don't agree with "thought police" but this isn't thought it's abuse and until you live in an area with as much racial tension and sexist attitudes as I do then you can't just keep saying "snowflakes". It's insidious and makes me scared for by daughters future.

Public order offences such as a group of people approaching a man and a child hurling racist abuse are of course quite properly within the police’s remit and always have been. But people are rightly alarmed at them intervening in non criminal matters. Especially when their history of dealing with criminal ones is do utterly abysmal.

wow ....it is SYP afterall.

Hate incidents should be logged.
People who are minorities and are the targets of these incidents will generally agree.
People don't believe us when we say there is a hostile atmosphere etc, therefore don't think it is necessary to do anything to try and prevent it. We need these statistics to demonstrate actually this is what is going on as people don't believe us otherwise.

there does however need to be a bigger police prescence onthe streets its getting worse and worse and (like everywhere else) , i was at work the other day in a residential, only to glance at my fb feed on my break to see that had been arrested short distance up the St with a large knife at 3pm .....its turning into the wild west

*to see that a man had bern arrested

oh fffs! cant spell

Women are frequently the targets of hate incidents and harassment and yet from this thread it would seem that many of them don’t agree.
There are plenty out there who define as a hate incident anybexpression of opinion with which they don’t agree. This approach by the police is open to abuse and manipulation and it will be used to silence women much more than protect them.

It is very open to malicious use.

I'm over here in the U.S. and someone here posted that this morning on a political forum as an example of how shitty the U.K. has become.

How about a helpline to report anti social behaviour, burglaries and other robberies and assaults but I suppose that would involve them having to do some real policing so that's scrap that idea.

Agree about the open to malicious use, there's no way really of policing it which is the worrying bit.

OK so local people on the thread are saying this is a racism issue. So why haven’t SYP released a targeted tweet about that? About reporting racism / feeling harassed because of race or nationality / some kind of ‘unsure if remarks about your skin colour or nationality are a hate crime? Talk to us we will listen to you’

All of this dancing around ‘report any thoughtcrime’ crap and refusing to name the actual issue of race, why are they so scared to come out and name race issues.

“there's no way really of policing it ”

Except that the people you report it to are literally the police

Except that the people you report it to are literally the police

Maybe I didn't word it clearly enough, but I didn't mean literally. I meant as in how would you know if it was a crime or not as it would be all very "he said, she said" and that's open to maliciousness and abuse.