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20-year-old son doesn't want to grow up

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Loo18 · 09/09/2018 13:34

My 20-year-old son is clever, funny and can be kind and loving. However, he failed most of his GCSEs because he didn't turn up/revise and basically since then has done very little. He did a Duke of Edinburgh course when he was 16. He's had a few jobs in hospitality that he's left or been sacked from after a month or two because he fails to turn up/be on time/takes holidays and doesn't go back etc.

He lives at home and talks a good talk about setting up various businesses, getting interim jobs, making music -( he does do this).
He clearly craves my attention and loves nothing more than a day out with me and his younger sister (13-years-old). He has lots of friends and other people who meet him think he's funny and bright but just immature. People endlessly tell me to give him time.

I encourage him to look for work, have said I will support him (and pay for) him going back into education. However, he'd clearly prefer to play fortnite through the night in him room, sleep all day and then make encouraging noises about all the jobs he's applied for or interviews he's got but they rarely materialise if they existed at all.

Like his dad he knows how to emotionally manipulate me (I know he's doing it and it still ties me in knots) and often has very plausible reasons/excuses for not doing/doing something that once again means he's not working.

He received almost £30,000 from his dad;s estate earlier this year and spent it within four months (I asked his dad's family not to give it to him directly but they wouldn't listen).

He clearly can get jobs but can't/won't keep them and doesn't seem to understand that whatever his career choice in the future doing ANY job now is better than non from prospective employers point of view not to mention his own finances and self-esteem.

HOWEVER:
To set all this into context his dad was an emotionally abusive alcoholic and I didn't find the strength or have the resources to leave him until 7 years ago. He died a couple of years ago.

My daughter was born in 2005 and I now see my son felt abandoned not only by his dad (he had a poor relationship with my son and never spent any time with him just bought him lots of stuff) but also me, his mum.

Of course at the time I didn't see this and not a day goes by that I don't feel guilty for not only staying in such a dysfunctional relationship/bringing children into that relationship /not getting out and protecting the my son, and subsequently my daughter from it sooner.

The reality of living with an emotionally abusive partner and alcoholic also meant that I don't think I was the best parent. I'd also be over emotional and probably shouted at my son too much. I also hate myself for this too.

When I finally left that relationship - my son was then 13/14 - i soon met a lovely man (his daughter and my son were friends) who was understanding of mine and my kid's situ and caring.

I made a massive mistake of inviting him to move in with us while my son was on an extended holiday so when he came back, this new man (albeit one he had known for a couple of years) was in situ in our house.

Pair that with the typical troubled teen behaviour and several years of hate and interference of an alcoholic father in denial, and it was a toxic mix.

Fastforward to this year and my son and partner have a very on/off relationship. My son is still resentful that my partner is here doesn't hide that very well even when they are getting on. On the other hand my partner, unhindered by my guilt and motherly emotions, says I am allowing my son to get away with emotional manipulation and acting like a child when he should be embracing some aspects of adult-hood - ie getting a job and being thoughtful about the needs of others.

My son isn't inclined to listen much to him because the nature of my partners work means I am the chief breadwinner and my son says why should be listen to someone who isn't in his view fully paying his way.
My daughter has a good relationship with my partner but I see my son is trying to poison that too but emotionally manipulating her into believing he is the injured party. This really isn't true.
Sorry for the long post.
I don't even know what I'm asking tbh....I suppose I'm interested in thoughts and opinions from anyone who's been in a similar situ and if anyone can point me in the direction of professional help that will make me stronger to deal with my son's manipulation.
Unfortunately we live in London were rent is so high that simply paying a month's rent and deposit on a room for him and kicking him out isn't really an option - but all suggestions very gratefully received. This is the first time I've ever posted here - please be gentle.

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Smallhorse · 10/09/2018 22:16

You sound like a very good and kind person

shockthemonkey · 17/09/2018 17:46

Good luck OP!

Oliversmumsarmy · 18/09/2018 09:37

I think your ds is stuck at the age of 13 waiting for his mum to spend time with him. All he got was going away and coming back so find his whole world had changed.

Even you say although it had been 2 years after his dad's death you were still dealing with issues surrounding his father.

Did he have any counselling at the time.

He was probably waiting for you to get better and concentrate some time with him and what he got was a family foisted upon him and there he remains.

Whilst your partner might be strict it doesnt sound encoutaging. If your ds makes a mistake does he should and discipline him so making it impossible for him to do anything

Loo18 · 06/10/2018 14:15

Hi - just back going through responses . No, if anything my partner is more middle class. I've been very lucky to carve a good career that means I can support myself and the children. My partner is in a career that pays significantly less than mine. His contribution to the house/me/the kids is significant - albeit not always financial.

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Loo18 · 07/10/2018 13:49

Further update. My current partner is moving out (I'm heartbroken about this but see that the current status quo cannot remain) We will remain a couple while I try to help my son and myself. I'm in touch with a clinical psychologist for help - for me and my son if he agrees to accept help.
I'm setting new boundaries, including turning off the wifi at night (I have yet to break this to him) and giving him new responsibilities until he gets a job. Once he has a job he will be expected to contribute financially. All this
All this must seem very straightforward to people looking from the outside, but trust me, when you're mired in the thick of it all, it's almost impossible to see what way is up. Throw my maternal emotions and guilt and it's a toxic mix. THanks again for everyone's comments - even the harsh ones. They have all contributed massively for me being to see a way forward. Thanks Loo xx

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