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Kim Woodburn continued...

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obviouslyperfect · 01/09/2018 22:40

New thread and still wondering why there has been no apology or acknowledgement of the incident in Loose Women last week.

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5Yearplan4000 · 09/09/2018 11:32

Coleen should sink into obscurity now but I really doubt we’ve seen the last of her. Just loves the drama, spotlight and she and her family are classic trash magazine and tabloid fodder. Expect more tearful stories from her and Linda Nolan ad nauseum.

annoyedofrichmond · 09/09/2018 12:02

Isn't that JSP now underhandedly trying to bully KW by trying to show her in a bad light?

Absolutely. I think most of the readers would have understood that it was a biased piece because it was written by one of the gang who smirked and salivated her way through the incident with one eye on her own image and one eye on the ratings (the cash cow that feeds her monetarily and egotistically).

It’s a shame as she was a brain in her day, and did have her finger on a sort of youth pulse, although I will never forgive her for having a hand in cancelling The Old Grey Whistle Test. Angry

annoyedofrichmond · 09/09/2018 12:34

5Yearplan4000

Coleen should sink into obscurity now but I really doubt we’ve seen the last of her. Just loves the drama, spotlight and she and her family are classic trash magazine and tabloid fodder. Expect more tearful stories from her and Linda Nolan ad nauseum.

She may survive but for the wrong reasons. She has been relegated to page fillers of her looking rough or the occasional interview if she can come up with an angle that will sell. (Interestingly Kim Woodburn may now hold the cards to the majority of CN column inches.)

“A cynical, mercenary, demagogic, corrupt press will produce in its time a people as base as itself.” Joseph Pulitzer.

AlphabetSoupcon · 09/09/2018 12:52

Someone commented “Less than 25%, do they mean 5%?” on the Sun article. Made me laugh!

Another person made the point that Kim could have milked this but hasn’t. Good for her.

youarenotkiddingme · 09/09/2018 13:20

Ok, I've now had a really good read of both threads and have a greater understand of why people have sympathy for KW.

I still don't think she herself is a very nice woman - but understand in this instance she was set up to fail and didn't actually stand a chance Sad

heartsease68 · 09/09/2018 13:46

I do believe KW knew that there was no reconciliation attempt coming.

Where are you getting that from? My impression is that anyone would have known it but KW's vulnerabilities mean she actually thought someone was going to apologise for bullying her because she perceives that as the decent thing for CN to do.

fmepumps · 09/09/2018 14:15

The British public are always going to stand up for the underdog.

Some people, and I expect the Nolans are amongst them, confuse being the underdog with having a sob story. The Brits prefer a bit more grit than that. Continuing to mention how Shane Ritchie had an affair whilst married to you 18 years after the fact is a sob story. That’s in revenge territory and it doesn’t doesn’t sit well with people, especially as Ritchie himself admits to his drinking and believing his own hype for the marriage breakdown.

www.womanmagazine.co.uk/celebrity/shane-richie-reveals-the-real-reason-behind-his-split-from-coleen-nolan-66957/amp

The Nolan’s treated Kim’s childhood abuse as a sob story even though she has gritted her teeth and got on with it. They can’t see the difference. When Coleen mentions her divorce she is doing it for effect and she thinks everyone mentioning heartache is doing the same.

On LW if anyone has a tale of woe, she’s there with her own example... “Well I had this..”, “That happened to me...”. No one told her to shut up or that they had heard it all before. They listened politely.

I can't be doing with the self absorbed. It is as if Colleen was furious that Kim had a worse life than her to talk about and wanted to shut her up. As if there was only so much sympathy to go around.

Coleen will now try to capitalise on the “I had to quit because of the bullies” story. She will still be talking about it in 10+ years time, trying to put her spin on it, how it ruined her life. But as Kim said, she’s not the only one to have had a hard life.

fmepumps · 09/09/2018 14:52

Also, there wasn’t a “campaign to get her fired” as she puts it. More sob story fodder.

There were 2 petitions to get her fired from Loose Women, one of which took off so the other was largely ignored.

However there were 3 petitions asking her to remain, and even more (at least 4) asking for the LW programme to be axed.

No one else moaned.

Petitions against Coleen Nolan:

www.change.org/p/itv-studios-global-entertainment-remove-coleen-nolan-from-the-loose-women-panel

www.change.org/p/itv-fire-coleen-nolan-from-loose-woman-for-horrible-behaviour

Petitions for Coleen Nolan:

www.change.org/p/itv-studios-keep-coleen-nolan-on-loose-woman

www.change.org/p/itv-keep-coleen-nolan-on-lose-women

www.change.org/p/itv-producers-do-not-sack-coleen-nolan-from-loose-women

Petitions including but not solely mentioning Coleen Nolan:

www.change.org/p/itv-studios-global-entertainment-have-the-nolan-sisters-removed-from-the-loose-women-panel

www.change.org/p/itv-get-loose-women-taken-off-air

www.change.org/p/time-to-call-it-a-day-with-loose-women

www.change.org/p/loose-women-itv-com-axe-loose-women-7bbc4144-92c4-4a7c-bedb-458835c5d32d

fmepumps · 09/09/2018 15:08

In the interest of fairness, here are the Kim Woodburn petitions.

Petitions against Kim Woodburn:

www.change.org/p/off-com-get-kim-taken-off-television-for-good-for-lying-and-picking-on-the-loose-woman-panel

Petitions for Kim Woodburn:

www.change.org/p/itv-daytime-make-kim-woodburn-a-loose-woman

I haven’t heard Kim moaning about the “campaign”.

As for the Ofcom complaints, they are confidential so we have no idea whether they were complaining about Nolan, LW, the producers or what.

fmepumps · 09/09/2018 15:18

Found another pro Coleen and anti Kim.

See, no “campaign” to get her sacked, just people signing a petition of which there is more than a fair representation on the other side.

www.change.org/p/itv-back-colleen-ditch-kim-0be11859-2ce1-494a-870c-e9d4e6f5cd25

HelenaDove · 09/09/2018 15:53

Agree with the points about the production team. They need to take responsibility for their actions.

HelenaDove · 09/09/2018 18:24

Oh Jesus wept Ive just seen a trailer for yet another reality show on Channel 4 called The Circle.

westendwellies · 09/09/2018 19:00

When “Judge Janet” asked Kim, “What is it exactly Coleen’s done that annoys you so much?” (sic) Kim replied “Ask Coleen”.

Was that because Coleen was supposed to speak first, or is she not saying because it will out Coleen in a bad way? CN is too annoyed for it just to be bad feelings left over from a tv show years ago. Maybe Kim has something on her? Maybe she is not sure whether it will come out now the public have shown such huge support for Kim?

Unfortunately I don’t suppose we’ll ever know.

SchadenfreudePersonified · 09/09/2018 19:01

Hell's teeth Helena - does it never end? Have they learned NOTHING?

i despair - I really do.

Mrsharrison · 09/09/2018 19:12

The difference between the two is KW isn't that dependent on the money. Shes happy to make an appearance for cash but seems to consider herself semi retired. She lives modestly and has no kids.
Colleen is used to a higher than average wage and has one kid riding her coat tails.

I like how KW has gone quiet.

No one on the LW team could have predicted how this has panned out.

If either woman wanted to sort things, either one could have contacted the other privately.
But no, they used the rift as a ratings coup. No sincerity in either of them.

wolfywolfy · 09/09/2018 19:48

Good point @westendwellies ..
Maybe KW does have something on her.
Interesting that !

twentieshairstyle · 09/09/2018 22:06

Has there ever been another celebrity like Coleen Nolan who has just given it all up because of public reaction to something they did?

IamPickleRick · 09/09/2018 23:06

Has there ever been another celebrity like Coleen Nolan who has just given it all up because of public reaction to something they did?

When you say it like that, it does sound like a really extreme flounce, doesn’t it Confused esp as she thinks she has done nothing wrong. Can’t think right now of any other celebs of that standing that have just walked away because of something they’ve done. Even those involved in Shilpa Shetty recovered somewhat in the eyes of the public (or it was all just forgotten)

LeMesmer · 09/09/2018 23:29

I have followed both threads with interest despite having never watched LW. With interest because this is what so much of British TV seems to have become now. People just goading each other, arguing and fighting seems to be what makes a ‘great’ programme today. Even more sad is that it seems to attract the most viewers. At the risk of sounding like a miserable old sod TV was so much better 40 years ago.

I don’t think Kim came out of this really well, but I think that is understandable. She was asked to be on the show, it seems, with a premise that didn’t happen. After all of it she hasn’t said anything which ironically says a lot. Colleen Nolan acted like a sulky teenager, not a mature woman who would engage in a discussion. Linda Nolan’s ‘what is your talent’ tirade was just disgraceful, why would you say that if not to humiliate someone?

LeMesmer · 09/09/2018 23:32

And Janet Street Porter should be hanging her head in shame at having any part of it.

Movablefeast · 10/09/2018 03:31

Bottom line is CN just does not have the fan base she claims to have. She didn’t sell many tickets for her solo tour and there has not been an online clamour to keep her on LW. The whole incident with KW was car crash TV and the producers should be ashamed. We all want better quality television and not ridiculous “feuds”. I am not even in the UK but occasionally see some LW on You Tube, it is nowhere near as good as it’s equivalent in the US “The View” but there is no reason for that.

Roussette · 10/09/2018 06:17

Can anyone tell me what the heck the solo tour was about? What would people be buying tickets for? Her singing on her own? A monologue about her life, what? I can't imagine spending 2p to go to that

To me, LW has had its day and this debacle illustrates that. A group of women spouting twaddle on a lunchtime with pathetic guests such as Loose MEN. It needs to be binned, it is boring boring boring. And Miss Goody Two Shoes Andrea McClean gets on my nerves, can't listen to her

wardrobemonster · 10/09/2018 07:07

Roussette The tour was so she could afford to buy a farm.

“I’m doing it on my own and I’ve never done that. If I bought a two-up, two-down somewhere I could afford to retire. But what have I worked all my life for?

“My dream since I was a child was to buy my own little farm where I can keep my horses. It’s really scary because I don’t know if I can afford it. I should really be going on ‘The Farm Tour’.

www.mirror.co.uk/3am/celebrity-news/coleen-nolan-bought-farm-after-13187873.amp

SchadenfreudePersonified · 10/09/2018 07:52

Well, she must have had plenty of money through her hands over the years. Perhaps she shouldn't have seen it all on - whatever, and made her dream farm her priority.

Roussette · 10/09/2018 07:57

Ahhh right wardrobe. Has she sung since the Nolans? I just don't know what she'd be doing on it!

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