Do you believe Women can't have penises?

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Just that really.... inspired by the recent sticker campaign.... "Women can't have penises" and "Some women have penises"....

Simple question - simple answer.

Me - Yes, I believe women can't have penises.

Yeah, in other news, IrishDad, men's experiences of life differ from those of women and girls. How you feel in mixed showers is probably not how your daughter feels.

What is our problem with a harmless man or transwoman, why do we fear them?

It's a fear of the other. Once we start treating them like human fucking beings, and not monsters, the fear and suspicion will subside.

What is our problem with a harmless man or transwoman

We don't know which ones are harmless and which ones are the rapists and murderers. They don't wear signs around their necks advertising their intentions.

Come one, IrishDad, no-one is this dim.

Once murders and rapes committed by men against women stop then women's justified fears will subside.

What is our problem with a harmless man or transwoman, why do we fear them?

Because we know that:

a) Not all who say they are trans are actually gender dysphoric.
b) Through lived experience, not all men are harmless.

I believe biology is more nuanced and complex than the average mumsnet discussion thread.

These threads are just bigoted people saying 'blah can only ever be blah, who agrees with me?' It's a bit pathetic tbh

Quite a lot of men, not all, but of course but a significant number, are not harmless though.

98% of sexual violence is committed by men. Almost a third of girls have been assaulted in schools. And the evidence suggests that transwomen have a rate of offending that is closer to the male rate than to the female one.

I’m curious to know how we can tell whether a man is ‘harmless’ just by looking at him, though. Do tell. Is it because he says so?

Cholka Biology disagrees with you.

What is our problem with a harmless man or transwoman, why do we fear them?

I realise you're a man so you might not fully understand this but us women have it constantly drilled into us from an early age to take precautions and avoid putting ourselves in risky situations.

We are constantly told to trust our instincts, don't get too drunk, don't wear this or that, don't walk home alone, don't do this, don't do that otherwise it's our fault if we get raped.

We have this messages constantly forced upon us by everyone. If women are scared then perhaps you need to take a closer look at why we're scared and who is enforcing the message upon us that we should be.

Do not however tell us non stop how we need to keep ourselves safe and not put ourselves in danger and then later get pissed off at us when we take that advice to keep safe on board. Do not tell us how silly, hysterical and irrational we're being when we want to talk about how we can keep ourselves safe when you know for a fact that society is also constantly berating us for not being wary enough and blaming us when something bad happens to us.

And why am I reminded of this Mrs Merton quote?:

’So what first attracted you to the millionaire Paul Daniels?'

If a parent is ok with their daughter showering with cisgender girls, some of whom may be lesbian, then it's irrational to have an issue with them showering with a trans girl

When my dd was 9 she wouldn't shower at swim class with a 9 year old boy. Neither would the other 9 year old girls (No idea why his mother thought it a great idea to let him shower and change in the female changing room. I'm sure the male changing room has the same facilitiess).

Why do you think any female of any age would be happy to shower and change with a bloke lady with their cock out??

The bridge is that way >>>>

@IrishDadof2

You clearly have no idea what it's like to be a woman and you certainly have no idea what it's fucking like to grow up female. So instead of berating us, mocking us and talking over us, why don't you actually try listening to us and understanding our concerns?

Women are constantly told that we need to listen to transwomen and understand what they're going through which many of us have done and do. Yet I very rarely see any transwomen actually listen to us and understand where we are coming from and why we feel the way we do. It always seems to have to be about transwomen constantly.

Transwomen claim to be women and they claim to have always been women but despite this they very seldom seem to have any empathy for us at all. They claim to be women yet they constantly dismiss us, try to silence us and belittle us and it's clear they have no understanding or idea what it's actually like to be female. Their behaviour is always so very clearly and undeniably male.

Plants that was what I was going to say. Could not put it better myself.

These threads are just bigoted people saying 'blah can only ever be blah, who agrees with me?' It's a bit pathetic tbh

In the future, when this has exploded, and it's a national scandal like Rotherham and Savile, and people like you are thinking about it, you're going to remember dimly that you said these things to get your Brownie 'wokeness' badge, but you're going to pretend that you were here, whistleblowing, with us.

That will be pathetic.

I don't merely believe that women can't have penises. I know that women can't have penises.

The scare stories around sharing showers and toilets are simply that; scare stories. I doubt they actually happened, or have been twisted beyond recognition. It's the same stories we used to spread about black people and Jews back in the day.

If you're so concerned about girls being raped, where was all the fury around those vulnerable girls groomed all across the north of England?

If you don't want to share a bathroom or changing room with a fellow woman, who happens to have a penis (probably shrivelled up beyond recognition with all the hormones), then go somewhere else.

(probably shrivelled up beyond recognition with all the hormones)

You really have no fucking clue do you?

Irishdad- talk to me about girls sport.

You really have no fucking clue do you?

He absolutely has a clue, plants. Ignore it. He is loving this. He's s beta male and craves the attention.

IrishDadof2

My fellow women do not have penises, shrivelled or otherwise.

I doubt they actually happened,

Have you actually looked into any of this, or are you just making assumptions?

In what way are these people women @IrishDadof2?

Would you honestly be okay with your daughter sharing an open plan changing room with these "transwomen"?

If you don't want to share a bathroom or changing room with a fellow woman, who happens to have a penis (probably shrivelled up beyond recognition with all the hormones), then go somewhere else.

Lol. Fuck off. It's the women's spaces. Not the men's. The men (all penis owners) will go somewhere else. Woman are staying in their rightful spaces.

You're probably right @Datun.

Fuck off back to your MRA subreddit @IrishDadof2 you fucking utter moron.

Aeroflotgirl so was I but could not either.

IrishDadof2 Of oucrse it never happens, nothing to see here folks...

www.thesun.co.uk/news/6804433/transgender-lag-sexually-abused-four-female-prisoners-days-after-arriving-at-west-yorkshire-jail/

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5798945/Trans-women-convicted-men-attack-vulnerable-inmates.html

www.standard.co.uk/news/crime/transgender-activist-tara-wolf-fined-150-for-assaulting-exclusionary-radical-feminist-in-hyde-park-a3813856.html

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/up-to-half-of-trans-inmates-may-be-sex-offenders-26rz2crhs

www.lifesitenews.com/news/target-transgender-voyeur-had-recorded-several-girls-undressing-in-dressing