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Do you believe Women can't have penises?

888 replies

loveyouradvice · 28/08/2018 14:36

Just that really.... inspired by the recent sticker campaign.... "Women can't have penises" and "Some women have penises"....

Simple question - simple answer.

Me - Yes, I believe women can't have penises.

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whereisthepostman · 31/08/2018 11:32

I don't think you'll get many people saying women can have a penis. It is a biological fact that they can't, I really don't understand how that can be argued with.

birdsdestiny · 31/08/2018 11:34

Well that's a lie I am afraid. Your first sentence clearly indicated that you are bothered about what is between peoples legs. It is how you have established your boundaries with regard to who you have sex with. Women are setting their boundaries in exactly the same way as you have done.

thegardenfairy · 31/08/2018 11:35

I'm a straight man, and don't personally find trans women attractive. But I respect their right to identity as women, and don't really care what's between their legs. Live and let live

I'm alright Jack.. Hmm

AnEPleaseBob · 31/08/2018 11:37

I'm a straight man, and don't personally find trans women attractive. But I respect their right to identity as women, and don't really care what's between their legs. Live and let live

You're a man. It's not up to you tell women that they have to accept men as women. It's not your identity that is being eroded.
Sure, live and let live is easy when you're not the one losing out.

AnEPleaseBob · 31/08/2018 11:38

Oh, and is the reason you don't find transwomen attractive because you don't fancy men?

IrishDadof2 · 31/08/2018 12:08

I don't feel a physical or chemical attraction to them, but neither do I have that feeling for African women or short women. It doesn't mean that I don't recognise them as women. All men have a type.

The hatred towards these women is completely irrational, and no different to the Jim Crow laws that black Americans had to live under in the old days. We have no right to tell people to sit at the back of the bus, or which bathroom they can use.

SylvanianFrenemies · 31/08/2018 12:11

I know women can't have penises.

birdsdestiny · 31/08/2018 12:14

What do you think sex segregation is about . It tells people which spaces that they can use. It is by its nature discriminatory. If you object to people being told what toilets, prisons, refuges, etc to use, I assume you object to all sex segregation which is a different arguement altogether.

AnEPleaseBob · 31/08/2018 12:15

ALL of them? There are transwomen of every type. Whatever you find attractive in women, there will be transwomen of that type. So how is it that you say that you don't find any transwomen attractive?
Is it the penis you aren't attracted to?

The hatred towards these women is completely irrational, and no different to the Jim Crow laws that black Americans had to live under in the old days. We have no right to tell people to sit at the back of the bus, or which bathroom they can use

What a load of shit, and how offensive of you to make such a comparison. Nobody is being told to sit at the back of the bus, but we absofuckingloutelty do have the right to tell me to stay out of womens bathrooms, womens changing rooms, womens refuges, womens prisons etc....

You have daughters IrishDad? You want them to have people with penises in their changing rooms, right next to them, taking their clothes off while your daughters take theirs off? You're fine with that? What if your daughters aren't fine with that? Are you going to tell them to Live and Let Live?

Frequency · 31/08/2018 12:16

I don't feel a physical or chemical attraction to them, but neither do I have that feeling for African women or short women. It doesn't mean that I don't recognise them as women. All men have a type

Yeah, lesbians don't have a physical or chemical attraction them either but they're still expected to have sex with them or risk being labelled a TERF with all the abuse that brings. Do you not have any comment on that?

I wonder what it is you don't find attractive about them? Could it, per chance, be the penis between their legs? Or would you be perfectly happy if you took an attractive lady home only to find to a penis between her legs? After all, you were physically attracted to her, so what does it matter what's between her legs?

And of course we have a right to dictate what bathroom they use. They whole point of sex segregation was to keep penises out of spaces where women are vulnerable. And now women are expected to shut up and put up because some men labelled their dicks as feminine?

If I call my vagina and mangina can I have an early pension and the inheritance rights men enjoy by virtue of their maleness? No? I wonder why that is?
No thanks.

Datun · 31/08/2018 12:20

I don't feel a physical or chemical attraction to them,

I wonder why.

Getoffthetableplease · 31/08/2018 12:22

Gender pees me off, a load of ridiculous stereotypes. Live however you want to but don't fucking expect me to call a pole a hole. Women cannot have penises. There's not even room for this to be just a belief, because urm... science.

Frequency · 31/08/2018 12:22

I'm betting all these straight, white men who want to live and let live would fast change their tune if the TRAs targeted them in the same way the target the lesbian community.

Datun · 31/08/2018 12:23

I don't feel a physical or chemical attraction to them,

Also bigot.

You've just dismissed an entire cohort on the basis that they're trans.

Fromage · 31/08/2018 12:28

How many straight men do find transwomen attractive?

PlantsArePeopleToo · 31/08/2018 12:32

I'm a straight man, and don't personally find trans women attractive.

In that case I hope you realise that you're a nasty bigoted transphobic TERF who deserves to die in a fire*.

*Obviously not what I think. Just a bit of TRA, uh, logic in action there for you Wink.

Winterbella · 31/08/2018 12:47

Women do not have a penis, fact.

JAPAB · 31/08/2018 13:00

*Obviously not what I think. Just a bit of TRA, uh, logic in action there for you wink.

Thing is, there are straight men who date trans women. Amd no doubt other straight men who theoretically could but do not for reasons of prejudice etc.

In otherwords, sometimes that sort of logic is actually correct.

YetAnotherSpartacus · 31/08/2018 13:00

I don't feel a physical or chemical attraction to them, but neither do I have that feeling for African women or short women. It doesn't mean that I don't recognise them as women. All men have a type

All men have the privilege and power to categorise women according to who they want to fuck and who they don't. Most choose 'types' (because that is what we women are reduced to, just 'things' ranked according to men's desires) that fit particular dominant male heterosexual fantasies - for example - tall, white, thin, etc. Oddly, men are rarely called racist (or otherwise) for this because this is their male sex-right.

Having said all of the above, it is nice that you recognise short/black women as female human so thanks for this.

Bowednotbroken · 31/08/2018 13:05

As pp have said, it's not a question of belief - it's just a fact. Women do not have penises. Frightening that this is the argument we are having to have - what a waste of energy / time / resources.

Fromage · 31/08/2018 13:09

All men have a type.

As a self-identified straight man, your type is 'not male.' That is why you don't fancy transwomen. It's nothing to do with 'type' and everything to do with 'not having a vagina.'

And men calling the opinions of women 'irrational' - the 1800s called, IrishDadof2 and they want their bullshit back.

Read the thread, LISTEN to what women are saying, and then you might have a chance at understanding what our very real, rational, logical fears are.

AnEPleaseBob · 31/08/2018 13:10

hing is, there are straight men who date trans women. Amd no doubt other straight men who theoretically could but do not for reasons of prejudice etc

There are, of course men who date transwomen. But are they straight if they are having sex with a penis? That's sort of the point here, transwomen are not women. So they are not in a relationship with a woman, are they?

There are a lot of straight men who are not prejudiced but who do not want to have sex with people with penises, because they are not gay. Two people with penises having sex together is kind of a definition of gayness, isn't it?
It's not prejudice, its preference.

There are of course also men who are prejudiced against transwomen AND don't want to have sex with them, but the two do not necessarily go together.

In otherwords, sometimes that sort of logic is actually correct

No, it isn't,

IrishDadof2 · 31/08/2018 13:11

My type is white, but I also like Asian and Hispanic, so I don't believe I'm being racist.

I like the individual, not their genitialia. Sad that some women can feel threatened by a few inches of flesh.

ShrodingersSturdyPyjamas · 31/08/2018 13:15

Lol.

Do you believe Women can't have penises?
ShrodingersSturdyPyjamas · 31/08/2018 13:16

Sad that some women can feel threatened by a few inches of flesh.

Sad that men cannot keep their few inches of flesh to themselves.