Do you believe Women can't have penises?

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Just that really.... inspired by the recent sticker campaign.... "Women can't have penises" and "Some women have penises"....

Simple question - simple answer.

Me - Yes, I believe women can't have penises.

I just completed a "consultation" online with the City of London Corporation about allowing self ID to change the rules at the swimming ponds on Hampstead Heath. I know it's rather niche but anything like this, big or small, needs to be challenged

But I will say this: trans people are getting the shit kicked out of them far more often than they are sneaking into ladies changing rooms and being deviant.

Apologies if anyone posted these stats in the meantime but there are more trans people who are murderers than murdered.

Why do you think that might be?

Well exactly, can't have women being forceful with facts, you have to then call them threatening and obnoxious and abusive and then accuse them of having psychiatric disorders.
Is Tilly a TRA, or has she just been listening to them for too long, because that is one of their tactics to women who stand up for other women in defiance of entitled men.

I haven't been involved with any of the feminism chats but how bizarre it is now I regularly see threads that remind ourselves these biological differences these days. Any secondary biology teachers posted in AMA? I begin to worry my children 's education.

Women have gained too many rights and forgotten their place 😒 so the misogynists need to put us back in our box, and what better way to do it, than use other men, while pretending that said men are ‘oppressed’.

Too true.
and as another poster pointed out, where were all these 'men wanting to be women' when we were seriously repressed?
Weren't so keen to become women and stand by us then, were they?

It's all very fishy.

Frequency and Seafoodeatit I am so sad to hear of these experiences.

"you can't reason rationally"

Spoken like a true man.
That phrase has been used for years and years, by men, to shut women up

This is what is so pathetic!
If you're going to want to be taken seriously as 'women', stop using male speech patterns for a start and reverting to male violence, when it suits.

Oh and for the record, I have never in my 60 years on this earth heard a woman say they want to punch someone, heard it plenty of times off men, and recently, men who think they're women.

I can hear many of you are frightened, and you can't reason rationally when you're frightened.

Oh do fuck off with your patronising bullshit.

This.

Oh maybe we're hysterical as well. Might as well go the whole stereotyping route and chuck that one in there as well.

A while back on this thread someone mentioned 'ladycock'. Seriously. Google this and google 'girldick. The images you find (ignore Pornhub) will leave you in no doubt that this is about kink and fetish to so many men.

Yes, there is definitely a fetish element to it that is conveniently brushed under the carpet.
Seems men are obsessed with their cocks, even when they're trying become women

I'm not frightened anyway, I'm fucking livid

I don't think you see many Transmen posting pictures of their manginas, or gentleclits. Its coming from the men.

that's a very interesting point.
the transmen are quietly getting on with their lives.
The fetish element is mainly coming from the Transwomen.
Who was that person who got his dick out recently?

there are more trans people who are murderers than murdered - careful with that statistic, Pyjamas. In the UK, over the past few years, that's probably true (though there was a transwoman murdered in the past year). Globally and especially amongst the South American community I think the picture is pretty crap.

Yes. I believe women don't have penises. Although I think 'believe' may be the wrong word...

I did like the reply on the first page to the effect that the poster would have two a day if she could get hold of them though.

careful with that statistic, Pyjamas. In the UK, over the past few years, that's probably true (though there was a transwoman murdered in the past year). Globally and especially amongst the South American community I think the picture is pretty crap.

It is true. I am in the UK.

One transwoman murdered in the past year by men.

2-3 women murdered a week by men.

What are your stats that amount to more than just 'pretty crap'?

It is safer to be trans in the uk than the average person.

Globally and especially amongst the South American community I think the picture is pretty crap.

The South American stats are mainly sex workers aren't they? Being a sex worker in Brazil is pretty risky, yes.

That's not go a lot to do with transwomen in the UK though.

Woman is a description of gender identity, often referred to as gender.

Oh no no. Sleight of hand. There is no clear delineation made between sex and "gender" meaning gender identity including transgender. Most policies conflate the two which even you surely must admit is erroneous. People ask what gender you are about a variety of things which actually only relate to sex.

*By "these people" I mean the media trans celebrities such as Bergdorf and Paris Lees.

Dodo the South American murder rate for everyone whether male, female, child, adult or trans woman is extremely high.

I would like to see the statistical evidence that backs up the claim that trans women are getting the shit kicked out of them I am assuming the poster means physically and is surely not referring to the ridiculous literal violence claimed by the misuse of pronouns or refusal to accept the trans women are women mantra.

If, and it is a very strong if, that it is the case that trans women suffer more violence than anyone else then do what women have had to do and campaign for laws and punishments, stop using women as human shields and thereby exposing them to even more violence and abuse than they already suffer.

I don't recall any woman ever, (and I certainly have not), ask for the 'band-with of woman/womanhood' to be widened by men who 'feel' like women, the sheer arrogance and misogyny of that statement beggars belief. If women want their band-with widened we can do it ourselves, we neither need nor want any help or input from men. Go widen the band-with of men and what it means to be male.

The disingenuous use of unglossed murder statistics from South America where a) the murder rate for everyone is incredibly high and b) where many transwomen work in the sex industry, where the murder rate is even higher to try to influence decision making in the U.K. is utterly shameful.

You know, I have a feeling it would be very interesting to know the South American murder rate for biological women working in the sex industry, and how that compares statistically to the oft-quoted rate for transwomen.

And re the OP, nope, of course women don’t have penises.

interesting points here
theconversation.com/can-a-woman-have-a-penis-how-to-understand-disagreements-about-gender-recognition-101991?utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Latest%20from%20The%20Conversation%20for%20August%2029%202018%20-%20109799807&utm_content=Latest%20from%20The%20Conversation%20for%20August%2029%202018%20-%20109799807+CID_1e1f2466bcd78a7299f1449048666217&utm_source=campaign_monitor_uk&utm_term=Can%20a%20woman%20have%20a%20penis%20How%20to%20understand%20disagreements%20about%20gender%20recognition

Pretty sure even in S America its riskier to be a woman than a transwoman.

One transwoman murdered in the past year by men.

2-3 women murdered a week by men.

True stats

And the suggestion is always somehow that feminists are the real threat to transwomen......