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Do you believe Women can't have penises?

888 replies

loveyouradvice · 28/08/2018 14:36

Just that really.... inspired by the recent sticker campaign.... "Women can't have penises" and "Some women have penises"....

Simple question - simple answer.

Me - Yes, I believe women can't have penises.

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Prawnofthepatriarchy · 29/08/2018 18:57

Of course a woman doesn't have a penis. Never has done, never will.

Prawnofthepatriarchy · 29/08/2018 19:07

It's bizarre, BertrandRussell. Rationally - or at least physically - transwomen have far more to fear from men, just as gay or any other gender nonconforming men do. And yet they hate women rather than men and their real rage is directed at disobedient women aka feminists.

Prawnofthepatriarchy · 29/08/2018 19:25

I should perhaps clarify that I'm referring to the trans rights activists who attack feminists in terms that suggest it's us who pose a physical threat to transwomen. I'm not talking about transwomen who treat us with respect, like the delightful Miranda Yardley or Debbie Hayton.

SandraTheBee · 29/08/2018 19:27

There are so many amazing posts on this thread, so many strong women.

EmpressOfSpartacus · 29/08/2018 19:33

Women are adult human females.

Do you believe Women can't have penises?
Frequency · 29/08/2018 19:48

I really feel for people like Miranda Yardley who've been shoved out of their own identity by a group of people who, for the most part, behave very much like stereotypical sexually aggressive males.

IAmLurkacus · 29/08/2018 19:52

How Miranda Yardley and others have been treated by people purporting to represent their community is absolutely disgusting.

SingeBuggerCack · 29/08/2018 20:05

Does Miranda Yardley even call himself a transwoman any more? (I know he’s clear about using male pronouns before the vexatious reporters leap the fuck all over this Hmm). I’m trying to be cautious about overly celebrating male allies, but MY is pretty great.

And:

a group of people who, for the most part, behave very much like stereotypical sexually aggressive males.

They really do, don’t they? I wonder why that is?

AnEPleaseBob · 29/08/2018 20:16

It's bizarre, BertrandRussell. Rationally - or at least physically - transwomen have far more to fear from men, just as gay or any other gender nonconforming men do. And yet they hate women rather than men and their real rage is directed at disobedient women aka feminists

Another salient point is they focus on making women concede that transwomen are women, because they already know that men do not and will not ever consider them as women

IfNotNowThenWhen1 · 29/08/2018 21:12

The weird thing is, despite Miranda Yardley fully accepting he is a male, I kinda see him as a her iyswim.
Exceptional person, no matter what sex though. It takes true grit to stand up to the kind of bullying and intimidation that he has.

dontbringmedown · 29/08/2018 21:40

Another salient point is they focus on making women concede that transwomen are women, because they already know that men do not and will not ever consider them as women

Excellent point.
They perceive women as the weaker ones and we are therefore easy targets for their nasty brand of viciousness.

dontbringmedown · 29/08/2018 21:41

They already know that men do not and will not ever consider them as women

IAmLurkacus · 29/08/2018 21:42

Yeah I see Miranda as a she, she’s socially transitioned as much as it’s possible to do. I’ve never felt any hint of Male entitlement from her and seems to be every bit as appalled at the safeguarding implications for children as I am.

Amusingly in my travels around the net I came across a young woman who didn’t believe ‘Miranda used to be a dude, no way’ not in a TWAW way but just hasn’t realised, very funny.

WrongOnTheInternet · 29/08/2018 22:17

Of course women don't have penises. I know this as surely as I know that the earth is round and orbits the sun. Biology is real.

Women with girl children in schools and youth organisations, including girl guides, need to be aware that those children are now being marginalised and in some cases endangered by the need to favour boy children's every whim and feel over their physical safety. Not that schools were ever great for girls, but the concept of safeguarding is being undermined too.

loveyouradvice · 29/08/2018 22:50

It is as simple as that... men's feelings are being put before women and girls' safety......

SO SO VERY WRONG

And on a personal note, it makes me so angry how men "coming out as trans" are hailed as brave and courageous... when the courageous thing to do would be to be expanding the bandwidth of being a MAN..... We have waited so very long for this and so few men take on this challenge.

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RedDogsBeg · 29/08/2018 23:31

Yes the safety, dignity and comfort of women and girls is being thrown out, all that hard work on boundaries, consent and the ability to say no and have it heard and acted upon is just being completely trashed in order to validate the feelings of men. Women and girls must not only welcome but positively encourage this brave new order or be subject to some kind of sinister North Korean style re-education.

It is appalling and shameful.

SomethingOnce · 30/08/2018 00:32

You has penis, you is man.

LondonPainter · 30/08/2018 02:19

No woman has a penis.

Women are spending so much time and energy defining what a woman is while the TRAs and their backers stealthily dismantle our sex-based rights. It’s a dream come true for the misogynists.

busyboysmum · 30/08/2018 02:25

I agree.

Women don't have dicks.

End of.

Willyoujustbequiet · 30/08/2018 02:33

Women do not have penises. Its simply a fact.

tillytop · 30/08/2018 03:07

Me man, me woman, me transwoman.You cis. Talk about a takeover!

Aridane · 30/08/2018 03:30

Women can’t have penises but they can still be dicks

JAPAB · 30/08/2018 03:41

Do you believe Women can't have penises?

No as some trans and intersex women do, but can understand that a lot of people are traditionalists which is their right.

tillytop · 30/08/2018 03:52

I refuse to be narrowed down to a Cis, whilst tra attempt this takeover.

IncrediblySturdyPyjamas · 30/08/2018 07:03

No as some trans and intersex women do, but can understand that a lot of people are traditionalists which is their right.

Traditionalists. Lol.

Can you direct me to one man who has changed sex and carried a baby to term, or one woman who has changed sex and provided sperm for someone else to have a baby?

Because if not, this whole sex change experiment hasn't worked has it?

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