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lookingforwardtoautumn · 27/08/2018 14:54

The schools website has said that term is from 3 September onwards. I’ve just found out there’s a training day on 31st August, and I’ve no child care ... Aibu to just say I can’t go?

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toomanyeastereggsurghh · 27/08/2018 18:29

We have inset on the 31st.
I’m afraid as much I sympathise with the last minute hunt for childcare, considering you’re not new staff it’s really up to you to have found out when your inset days are. Ours are easy to find on the term dates section on the school website.
Good luck trying to find childcare, I use friends a lot for these occasions! We trade childcare.

toomanyeastereggsurghh · 27/08/2018 18:29

We have inset on the 31st.
I’m afraid as much I sympathise with the last minute hunt for childcare, considering you’re not new staff it’s really up to you to have found out when your inset days are. Ours are easy to find on the term dates section on the school website.
Good luck trying to find childcare, I use friends a lot for these occasions! We trade childcare.

Typhoon2000 · 27/08/2018 18:29

The school Teaches Pay and Conditions Document states that in any one academic year you cannot be required to attend more than 195 days.

Typhoon2000 · 27/08/2018 18:29

The school Teaches Pay and Conditions Document states that in any one academic year you cannot be required to attend work more than 195 days.

SunnyCoco · 27/08/2018 18:30

Yes if you’ve been paid from mid July then obviously you need to go to work

I’m afraid childcare is up to you to sort out, it’s not your employers problem.

It’s difficult but at the end of the day it’s a normal Paid day of work... of course you can’t just not go to work?!

Mossend · 27/08/2018 18:34

You seem very negative about the responses from posters who are only trying to help.

You actually come across as quite unpleasant

Typhoon2000 · 27/08/2018 18:34

SunnyCoco -teachers work under a contract of employment which in most cases is the STPCD. You need to consult it then comment.

FrancisCrawford · 27/08/2018 18:39

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TSSDNCOP · 27/08/2018 18:39

The school Teaches Pay and Conditions Document states that in any one academic year you cannot be required to attend more than 195 days.

I'm not a teacher, but why couldn't the first day start on the 28th August (for example) provided the last day was an earlier date in July?

TSSDNCOP · 27/08/2018 18:39

The school Teaches Pay and Conditions Document states that in any one academic year you cannot be required to attend more than 195 days.

I'm not a teacher, but why couldn't the first day start on the 28th August (for example) provided the last day was an earlier date in July?

WoWsers16 · 27/08/2018 18:40

Yes the STPCD - I know it well being a teacher of 14 years.

It is a training day- just because she has no childcare does not mean she can just have the day off- this is a discussion for any work place- not just schools.

Having had maternity leave AND the Summer Holiday - honestly a training day should be something she needs to go to to prepare.

glintandglide · 27/08/2018 18:42

Tbh OP I think you should just play dumb and not go in. What could they do? No one even told you about it, SMT won’t have a leg to stand on

PurpleDaisies · 27/08/2018 18:44

I'm not a teacher, but why couldn't the first day start on the 28th August (for example) provided the last day was an earlier date in July?

It can. One of mine used to go back (for staff inset only) at the end of August so we got a better Christmas holiday.

rockofages · 27/08/2018 18:44

This is making me mad! At my school I have been in for 3 full weeks of the holiday so far, and I’m not the only one. How can any teacher turn up on the same day as the pupils? Displays? Planning? Tidying up? A million and one other admin tasks? Making the teaching room an interesting and stimulating place to welcome your pupils? I’m a parent too and have paid out a lot of money over the years for before and after school care ( even when my kids were in my school) and for holiday care and illness cover. You can’t be off every time nursery won’t have your child due to coughs and colds etc. Maybe you need to re-think your career choice?

PurpleDaisies · 27/08/2018 18:45

No one even told you about it, SMT won’t have a leg to stand on

The op does know about it though. That will come out, it always does. It’s yotally unprofessional to just not turn up.

glintandglide · 27/08/2018 18:45

Are you in primary rockofages?

Toomanydecisions · 27/08/2018 18:52

I have some issues with what you have said OP (fellow teacher!) but that's not what you were asking about.

I also return from Mat Leave in Sept (I did do KIT days but only because I had unexpected free childcare). I find it a bit strange that the 31st Aug is an inset, I'm sure that falls on the last day of the previous school year so that would have caught me out too! I'm returning on a part time basis and have had to organise additional things for inset days. This was all done over the weekend!

I know it's a bank holiday, but get sending those emails now. It will take the stress off knowing you are actually sorting something. Your school will have an emergency leave policy that may be used (? Not actually sure, hopefully someone else can clarify?)

Toomanydecisions · 27/08/2018 18:52

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WoWsers16 · 27/08/2018 19:16

I think 'playing dumb' as someone has said - as a professional in professional role is extremely ridiculous- honestly is this how people act for having a day off work as they didn't sort out childcare.

SMT would have a leg to stand on as they can not hand hold all staff (especially ones that have been teaching for over 6 years!)

Also after maternity- and then a full paid Summer- I think complaining about starting then is ridiculous.

My main annoyance with this is the flippant attitude in the OP- just expecting a day off just as she hasn't got childcare.

Typhoon2000 · 27/08/2018 19:24

Again if you consult the STPCD, you will see it has a lot to say about duties such as putting up displays, collecting money etc which should NOT be done by teachers.

glintandglide · 27/08/2018 19:25

Sorry for some reason I havent been able to post for ages. As a professional myself I find it SHOCKING that OPs manager hasn’t informed her of her training days and hasn’t been in touch on her return from maternity- which as a line manger is something you need to handle with sensitivity- and a quick chat with a colleague in the supermarket is not being informed.

How can they expect professionalism when they haven’t shown any?

rockofages · 27/08/2018 19:33

Yes, glintandglide, but friends in nursery classes and secondary have also been in working. Secondary colleagues more likely to be doing work online at home but have still been in for the nitty gritty stuff. Rightly or wrongly I think teaching is an all or nothing career. I stayed part time in a job share or on supply when my children were small so that I could be more flexible. I appreciate that money is an issue but I chose to do without any extras at that time. I was frustrated a little putting my career on hold, but as I was in on every trip day, sports day, assembly, training day or twilight etc etc whether or not it was my working day ( as was my job share partner) I was soon back on track having demonstrated my commitment. Remember the impact any absence has on your colleagues and pupils especially now that schools can not afford supply staff.

WoWsers16 · 27/08/2018 19:33

Yes you have mentioned the STPCD- however as a teacher I ignore some of that (displays, collecting money etc..) due to the fact that I enjoy that part of the job.
The STPCD is not a bible for the majority of teachers- unfortunately for some it is theirs.

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