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Boilin · 2018-08-18T16:45:16+00:00

Went to Wetherspoons (I'm still there) with DP. I'm 28 weeks pregnant at the moment and had half a pint of cider with my meal. The woman who served it to me had no issue with it whatsoever, but the man stood next to me (not sure if he was slightly drunk) felt it appropriate to tell my DP that 'that won't be good for her or the baby' (hello I'm stood right here [hmm]). DP told him, 'it's fine' and told me to ignore him and the bloke then continued to discuss under his breath with his partner/friend my choice to have a drink. AIBU to think he had no right? To think that it's fine that I had half a pint once in a blue moon? To feel pissed off with the constant judgement of my ever move since I've been pregnant? Ugh. I've just had enough of today! Sorry for moaning...

HarshingMyMellow · 19/08/2018 18:27

Can I nominate @Scout1774 s post for classics?

Absolutely spot on!

SavanahXx · 19/08/2018 18:29

@Nutkins24 clearly no one is winning this 'argument' its not 100% safe, but also its not 100% unsafe, I guess its just a matter of morals.

WeightorWhite · 19/08/2018 18:29

@SavanahXx I've noticed a LOT of your posts have been deleted.....you don't follow rules?

SavanahXx · 19/08/2018 18:32

@WeightorWhite someone clearly got offended by my comments, that actually weren't as offensive as some of the other comments that are still here, I'm just not petty enough to spend my time reporting comments because I disagree with them

apriljune12 · 19/08/2018 18:32

I find it depressing and quite incredible that anyone reaches the age of 18 and still sees the world in the black and white was a toddler does. So they cannot assimilate facts and understand how to negotiate and evaluate research.

To be honest a thick parent is far more problematic to a child than one who drinks occasionally or indeed a teenager.

By 14 my kids could see shades of grey. It’s concerning when adults can’t.

prettybird · 19/08/2018 18:33

You. Can't. Prove. A. Negative.

The fact that no one has been able to prove damage from a single sip suggests that there is no damage . But that's not stopping anyone making the choice not to drink to minimise the risk - or choosing to assess any theoretical risk and go ahead anyway.

There has however been proof that children of young mothers are statistically more at risk . But that's not stopping anyone making the choice to get pregnant anyway and assessing the risk as worth it

Just to re-iterate for the hard-of-learning: you can't correlate something that has never been proven, with something that has been proven

apriljune12 · 19/08/2018 18:33

HarshingMyMellow

Yes agree

mehhh · 19/08/2018 18:34

Urgh what an idiot ignore him the sexist pig

karyatide · 19/08/2018 18:34

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Message withdrawn at poster's request.

Vicky1990 · 19/08/2018 18:35

Google Alcohol use in pregnancy..
You have a choice, your unborn child doesn'.

WeightorWhite · 19/08/2018 18:38

@SavanahXx you are very offensive, very bigoted and very naive!

Having a baby and worrying about if you buy pink or not is so extremely simplistic it's untrue! Also not allowing a half of cider in pregnancy does not make you a good and perfect mother......you've an awful lot of growing up to do. Also the amount of comments and continual arguing you e done of this thread shows your immaturity.

Quite honestly I'd go away and do some growing up before your aww baby girl is born.

Nutkins24 · 19/08/2018 18:39

To be fair to Savannah I have no idea why her comments would have been deleted, I don’t think there was anything offensive in them??

apriljune12 · 19/08/2018 18:42

No I agree daft as a brush but probably not delectable

SavanahXx · 19/08/2018 18:43

@WeightorWhite you're so polite its crazy I think you'll find that if you actually knew me, you'd see I'm not 'childish' like you seem to be claiming.

WeightorWhite · 19/08/2018 18:47

@SavanahXx reading your other posts with all the aww baby, aww pink comes across massively immature. So does your "I'm 19 and know much more knowledgable than all you oldies!"

Take the tine to get off this thread, go grow up and learn from people who have children and actually know! Unless you're of course going to be mother of the century.

IhatetheArchers · 19/08/2018 18:49

See, I was right Savannah, you didn't understand them.

apriljune12 · 19/08/2018 18:50

But love to see the world in such black and white terms is childish.

To think you are the font of knowledge on parenting before you have even had your baby is childish.

You are setting yourself up for a fall and if you act like this and talk like this to other mums in RL you will find yourself isolated.

My dd is your age. I would say the same to her if she spoke the way you do.

Belina · 19/08/2018 18:51

Weirdo it's not his baby I would of told him to do one

HarshingMyMellow · 19/08/2018 18:55

@SavanahXx you make a lot of noise for someone who doesn't particularly know much and refuses to educate themselves further.

Every single time you do something you're putting your baby at risk.

Having a bath? Better make sure it's not too hot! You could boil the baby.
Going out for dinner? How do you know the food hygiene is up to scratch? How do you know the food has been stored at a maximum of 5c?
You could get Listeriosis and that can cause an untold amount of problems for baby - including still birth.
Going to bed? Make sure you stay on your left side all night! Can be bad for the baby otherwise.
Having sex? You do know having an orgasm can cause pre-term labour?

Do you notice that all of these every day things can carry risks?
Do you notice how I use the word CAN, not WILL?

It's unbelievable arrogant of you to think that your opinion is the be all and end all, that everyone should agree with you and that anyone who doesn't should be shouted down.

It's your opinion. That's all. You're entitled to have it, but not entitled to preach it. The same as the other posters are entitled to form their own opinions and risk assess for their own pregnancies/bodies.

But of course, you're just going to come back repeating the same nonsense you've been spouting for your posts.
I thought I knew best too once, then I grew up.
Hopefully you will too before your child is born.

HarshingMyMellow · 19/08/2018 18:56

@SavanahXx you make a lot of noise for someone who doesn't particularly know much and refuses to educate themselves further.

Every single time you do something you're putting your baby at risk.

Having a bath? Better make sure it's not too hot! You could boil the baby.
Going out for dinner? How do you know the food hygiene is up to scratch? How do you know the food has been stored at a maximum of 5c?
You could get Listeriosis and that can cause an untold amount of problems for baby - including still birth.
Going to bed? Make sure you stay on your left side all night! Can be bad for the baby otherwise.
Having sex? You do know having an orgasm can cause pre-term labour?

Do you notice that all of these every day things can carry risks?
Do you notice how I use the word CAN, not WILL?

It's unbelievable arrogant of you to think that your opinion is the be all and end all, that everyone should agree with you and that anyone who doesn't should be shouted down.

It's your opinion. That's all. You're entitled to have it, but not entitled to preach it. The same as the other posters are entitled to form their own opinions and risk assess for their own pregnancies/bodies.

But of course, you're just going to come back repeating the same nonsense you've been spouting for your posts.
I thought I knew best too once, then I grew up.
Hopefully you will too before your child is born.

mathanxiety · 19/08/2018 19:11

Nutkins24
Actually I know quite a few young babies who have been prescribed liquid ranitidine and it’s about the same strength as wine, so on that basis I would conclude that it probably wouldn’t do any harm. Certainly no evidence that cider would help with colic (aka a crying baby) though.

Zantac (Ranitidine) syrup is available only by prescription for babies, and it is extremely important to follow dosage instructions to the letter.

"about the same strength as wine" - what does this actually mean?
I do not think 'strength' is a scientific term.

www.healthline.com/health/childrens-health/zantac#interactions
Most people tolerate Zantac fairly well, but it is possible for your baby to have side effects. These side effects may include:

<span class="italic">headache</span>
<span class="italic">constipation</span>
<span class="italic">diarrhea</span>
<span class="italic">nausea</span>
<span class="italic">vomiting</span>
<span class="italic">rash</span>

Drug interactions
Zantac can change how your baby’s body absorbs other medications because of the changes it makes to the amount of stomach acid. It can also affect how the kidneys remove medications from the body. Zantac can block liver enzymes that also break down medications.

.......
so on that basis I would conclude that it probably wouldn’t do any harm
Yes, the comparison with Ranitidine makes it clear that you could fire ahead and give the baby a little wine, or cider, or whatever else you felt in your heart of hearts wouldn't do any harm

Would a doctor prescribe alcohol for a baby, do you think? It used to be used for teething problems in days of yore. I don't think the practice of rubbing whiskey on inflamed infant gums is officially approved any more, if it ever was.

What makes alcohol ok for a baby in utero but not for a baby afterwards?

Lazypoolday · 19/08/2018 19:17

if you was right, then the NHS would state that it's safe to consume even 1 unit of alcohol, but they don't

When I was pregnant 7 years ago they did. The advice was 1 or 2 units once or twice a week. When I was in early labour the midwife told me go home and have a bath and glass of wine! The advice has only changed in the last couple of years and it is NOT based on any new evidence and is simply because some people are too stupid to know what moderation means. Do you really think that generations of children have been harmed by women following the previous advice? Don't you think that there would be evidence of this?

mathanxiety · 19/08/2018 19:34

Boilin
...no I wouldn't give my child spoons of cider. First of all because it would do bugger all for colic and second of all because it would be illegal and pointless. Two spoonfuls or cider however would likely not harm a baby so your argument doesn't really work.

It seems we are a little distracted by the hypothetical 'colic', and also by the 'few spoonfuls' I mentioned.

How about this hypothetical situation - you decide one evening that having a glass of cider over the course of about an hour would do you baby no harm? You like cider, you feel your baby might like it too, and it's only a glass after all.

Would you pour some into a bottle and encourage the baby to drink it?

Why would that be pointless after the baby is born but meaningful (or reasonable, or whatever the opposite of pointless may be) before the baby is born?

Why might it be illegal to do this?

Vicky1990 · 19/08/2018 19:35

The simple answer to the question of drinking alcohol and the risk to the unborn child while pregnant is this.
No consumption of alcohol, no risk.
Consumption of any amount of alcohol, some risk.
If your unborn child had a voice in this it would say, please do not drink alcohol mum, it may harm me.

mathanxiety · 19/08/2018 19:36

Boilin
Given that you use the word 'pointless', I should ask what you think the point of giving your baby a glass of cider is now?