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AIBU- Inlaws dilemma- Help!!

187 replies

Advice79 · 09/08/2018 10:19

Apologies for long post!

DH and I have been married 8 years 3 kids and currently expecting our 4th child.

We took FIL to his GP appointment yesterday, and they advised a repeat blood test needed. FIL is out of country 6 months of year due to work, and flying out of country on Saturday. I quickly drafted a letter to GP from him asking permissions for full medical history including bloods/results/appointments could be discussed with Husband, and sister in law as there have been issues in the past over communications from which meant him flying back unnecessarily.

I asked FIL if he wanted me in there he said yes, so I added myself too. (For background I usually sort out his appointments, repeat prescriptions, collections etc). Note we live almost 80 miles from his GP, and SIL has never done this in the last few years.

FIL took letter into surgery and I emailed it to SIL, me and hubby so everyone is in the loop. We then took FIL to hospital for blood test to be done asap.

SIL then messages me to say following

"Hi I’m not comfortable with the GP discussing my Dad’s medical condition with you at the same time that it will be discussed with Hubby and I. It’s not appropriate and it’s not right as we are his children. I’ve spoken to FIL about this in the past when you have suggested this before and he agreed that that is not what he wanted. I’ll speak to him about it again but there appears to be crossed wires here.

I say "ok".

At this point I speak to hubby who is in hospital with FIL and he says SIL called him, and he explained to her that FIL was happy for me to be added to letter, and consented, it wasn't done in a malicious/cohersive way.

She replies

"I’ve just seen your email. I’ll write back to the GP today once I’ve spoken to FIL to get the letter reverted. In future I would ask that as my Dad’s daughter matters such as these are discussed with me also before any action I’d taken. It’s going to now look odd that a further letter is done"

I replied stating it's inappropriate she contacts me and that she needs to discuss with FIL and my hubby. She states she doesn't know what's inappropriate and that she is well within her rights to have this view. I state the following.

"To be honest if you dont know there is no point in discussing it with you. There are many different ways in which this situation could have been dealt with and I didn't need to be involved in any of it. What is clear is that you clearly have an issue with me, and that's fine, but I am pregnant, and dont need this addition stress and attitude from you, so I would appreciate it if you don't contact me further. As previously stated please discuss with Hubby and FIL . This would have been the most appropriate way of dealing with it, as it is his medical record, and I only did what FIL discussed with me and hubby and followed his wishes. This is my opinion and I'm well within my rights to have a view too just like you"

She then replies "Stop messaging me then and stay out of family matters"

Heated conversations then took place later that evening between hubby, FIL and SIL, and SIL states to hubby that I shouldn't get involved as I'm not her family, and these are family matters, (but I'm good enough to sort out flight bookings, collecting prescriptions, take him shopping etc when needed). I only get involved in things if FIL directly asks me to help him with something.

Hubby states I am family and she doesn't get to decide who is family or not. She repeats about 10/20 times I'm not her family.

Hubby then asks if our kids are her family, she states Yes, but Your wife is not family. Hubby then states if I am not family then there is no point in any family relations, and that she needs to apologise for her comments. She says never. Hubby explains situation cannot be left as is, and things cannot just go back to normal after her comments. SIL doesn't understand and that they can! Hubby states that if she doesn't understand there is no point in continuing contact.

Who is being unreasonable here?

OP posts:
Advice79 · 09/08/2018 17:18

@Nonoannette I'm not saying at all that it's impossible that I'm at fault here at all. But following most comments today I dont think I've been unreasonable.

I'm saying that just because I've NC one family member in the past for racism doesn't mean there is a pattern of behaviour of NC and therefore I'm the problem. It is two people in a 40 year period. I think it's just not constructive for people to jump on the back of other people's posts to try to goad a reaction from the poster. Usually people post on here to get/help/advice/constructive feedback and that's what I wanted really. I didn't expect to be attacked for previous decisions, but thank you for your comments.

KoolAidPickle if you read the posts properly I never said I was a victim, the comments re victim blaming were copied from another poster on this thread by you and then reposted so they are slightly misleading, and not used for the purpose intended by the original poster. You are right It's not unreasonable to suggest if someone had a habit of cutting people off they may not be reasonable in doing so this time.
However I think it I unreasonable to suggest that a NC"habit"that constitutes two people in a period of almost 40 years. It is an inconsequential figure and bears no relevance to these circumstances. Personally I don't think my email to SIL was rude, but like most opinions I think we can agree to disagree on this.

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Advice79 · 09/08/2018 17:20

ChinkChink it's not more than 6 months

OP posts:
KoolAidPickle · 09/08/2018 17:21

However I think it I unreasonable to suggest that a NC"habit"that constitutes two people in a period of almost 40 years. It is an inconsequential figure and bears no relevance to these circumstances

You said "members of my own family" which is more than 1 person.

Nicknacky · 09/08/2018 17:21

You did say you had previously went NC with “members” of your family. Plural.

Advice79 · 09/08/2018 17:21

Once again this post is not about FIL entitlement to NHS care

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KoolAidPickle · 09/08/2018 17:22

But its relevant, if he isn't.

Advice79 · 09/08/2018 17:22

KoolAidPickle this was clarified as one person in the same thread a few pages ago

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Advice79 · 09/08/2018 17:23

KoolAidPickle he is, and this post isn't. I think you are jut trying to goad the situation. Do you work for the DailyFail???

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KoolAidPickle · 09/08/2018 17:23

when you backtracked to make it look better?

Nicknacky · 09/08/2018 17:23

Why write “members of my family” rather than “a member of my family”? That’s not just a stray S in the sentence.

KoolAidPickle · 09/08/2018 17:24

Yes. Because not instantly believing every word you say means I'm a journo for the mail. Dramatic much?

Advice79 · 09/08/2018 17:24

KoolAidPickle I won't be responding to you again. Thank you for your inflammatory comments but I think I've wasted enough time on you.

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Nicknacky · 09/08/2018 17:25

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KoolAidPickle · 09/08/2018 17:26

So only fawning, agreeing, you poor hun type comments welcome? Gotcha. Perhaps Am I Being Unreasonable was the wrong question to ask then? Especially since the answer is clearly yes.

Advice79 · 09/08/2018 17:27

Nicknacky thanks for your comments, I'm sure you have never made a mistake with your typing either. I won't be responding to your posts either. Thank you

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Nicknacky · 09/08/2018 17:28

Sorry, couldn’t resist that opportunity.

KoolAidPickle · 09/08/2018 17:34

It wasn't a mistake though, obviously. As pp said,its an entirely different phrasing

twiglet · 09/08/2018 17:45

By the sounds of it your SIL has thrown her toys out of the pram because she feels left out.
It probably goes deeper than being against you but your the easier target.
Given she has refused to apologise then you are justified in not engaging with her, spending time with her or your children.

I would however, given the age of your FIL and health conditions and given he appears to have already tried and failed to appease his DD urge caution with NC/rifts.

By all means don't speak directly with her but adding stress to yourself and your FIL isn't healthy for anyone involved. As he gets older there will be continual decisions to be made, the last thing you want is every decision to turn into a battle ground between siblings because the rift has got bigger and bigger is not only stressful but exhausting.

There are ways to be civil at family gatherings and still not engage with directly.

maxthemartian · 09/08/2018 17:45

Oh ffs. OP just ignore the arseholes picking at you about anything they can think of. It's AIBU at its most spiteful and annoying.
Of course your SIL is an utter cow. I consider both my brothers wives family and love one of them dearly and the other through gritted teeth.

Nicknacky · 09/08/2018 17:47

max People are not arseholes because they are picking up on the op’s own words. You opinion isn’t right and mine wrong, you know.

TheWernethWife · 09/08/2018 17:48

I think KoolAid and Nicknacky are a pair of goady tuckers.

TheWernethWife · 09/08/2018 17:49

goady fuckers

KoolAidPickle · 09/08/2018 17:53

It's not goady to disagree with OP, based on THEIR own words. It's the actual point of the forum.

Nicknacky · 09/08/2018 17:54

Why a goady fucker? Because I don't agree with the op and queried her posts?

lapenguin · 09/08/2018 17:58

Well if she doesn't think you should be privy to that stuff then fine but she should be dealing with the rest then, not you.
Yes he has two grown up kids to do all that for him but from the sounds of it, if he went into a and e and you and your SIL were there, maybe even your hubby (I don't know how much he knows about his dad's meds) then when the doc asks what he's on, you'd be the only one who could answer. So I think it's only logical that you know basics such as what the medications are for.