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AIBU- Inlaws dilemma- Help!!

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Advice79 · 09/08/2018 10:19

Apologies for long post!

DH and I have been married 8 years 3 kids and currently expecting our 4th child.

We took FIL to his GP appointment yesterday, and they advised a repeat blood test needed. FIL is out of country 6 months of year due to work, and flying out of country on Saturday. I quickly drafted a letter to GP from him asking permissions for full medical history including bloods/results/appointments could be discussed with Husband, and sister in law as there have been issues in the past over communications from which meant him flying back unnecessarily.

I asked FIL if he wanted me in there he said yes, so I added myself too. (For background I usually sort out his appointments, repeat prescriptions, collections etc). Note we live almost 80 miles from his GP, and SIL has never done this in the last few years.

FIL took letter into surgery and I emailed it to SIL, me and hubby so everyone is in the loop. We then took FIL to hospital for blood test to be done asap.

SIL then messages me to say following

"Hi I’m not comfortable with the GP discussing my Dad’s medical condition with you at the same time that it will be discussed with Hubby and I. It’s not appropriate and it’s not right as we are his children. I’ve spoken to FIL about this in the past when you have suggested this before and he agreed that that is not what he wanted. I’ll speak to him about it again but there appears to be crossed wires here.

I say "ok".

At this point I speak to hubby who is in hospital with FIL and he says SIL called him, and he explained to her that FIL was happy for me to be added to letter, and consented, it wasn't done in a malicious/cohersive way.

She replies

"I’ve just seen your email. I’ll write back to the GP today once I’ve spoken to FIL to get the letter reverted. In future I would ask that as my Dad’s daughter matters such as these are discussed with me also before any action I’d taken. It’s going to now look odd that a further letter is done"

I replied stating it's inappropriate she contacts me and that she needs to discuss with FIL and my hubby. She states she doesn't know what's inappropriate and that she is well within her rights to have this view. I state the following.

"To be honest if you dont know there is no point in discussing it with you. There are many different ways in which this situation could have been dealt with and I didn't need to be involved in any of it. What is clear is that you clearly have an issue with me, and that's fine, but I am pregnant, and dont need this addition stress and attitude from you, so I would appreciate it if you don't contact me further. As previously stated please discuss with Hubby and FIL . This would have been the most appropriate way of dealing with it, as it is his medical record, and I only did what FIL discussed with me and hubby and followed his wishes. This is my opinion and I'm well within my rights to have a view too just like you"

She then replies "Stop messaging me then and stay out of family matters"

Heated conversations then took place later that evening between hubby, FIL and SIL, and SIL states to hubby that I shouldn't get involved as I'm not her family, and these are family matters, (but I'm good enough to sort out flight bookings, collecting prescriptions, take him shopping etc when needed). I only get involved in things if FIL directly asks me to help him with something.

Hubby states I am family and she doesn't get to decide who is family or not. She repeats about 10/20 times I'm not her family.

Hubby then asks if our kids are her family, she states Yes, but Your wife is not family. Hubby then states if I am not family then there is no point in any family relations, and that she needs to apologise for her comments. She says never. Hubby explains situation cannot be left as is, and things cannot just go back to normal after her comments. SIL doesn't understand and that they can! Hubby states that if she doesn't understand there is no point in continuing contact.

Who is being unreasonable here?

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Advice79 · 09/08/2018 11:13

Thanks everyone. I think what's upset me the most is the fact that she considers that I'm not family after 8 years of marriage and yet my children are. I really don't want my children around someone with this kind of attitude. I think it's wrong, and alarms me that she can separate such emotional things such as family, as a matter of fact.
It shows me that she has no respect for me as a person/mother etc.
As far as I am concerned whether we like it or not we are family, and you can't pick or choose who they are despite your differences.

I've gone NC with members of my own immediate family for similar attitudes.

This is the final straw for me in a long line of issues with her and I'm contemplating NC with her for me or any of my children. I've discussed with hubby who says he understands and respects my decision.

Would I be unreasonable in doing this?

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diddl · 09/08/2018 11:13

I think that yabu for ever getting involved!

I do think that she has been very rude, but in this case I can't see why, when he has two "kids", you need to know his medical details at all.

If FIL wants you to be included-is it just because it's easier for him because you organise stuff?

Nicknacky · 09/08/2018 11:13

Why can’t he be emailed with his own results? Rather than include anyone.

dinosaurkisses · 09/08/2018 11:13

I imagine MIL handled all this crap pre-split and the DC (and DIL) have picked up where she left off.

I can’t decide if FIL is pathetic for not having a handle on it himself or a Machiavellian genius for managing to obtain three unpaid PAs just by appearing a bit useless.

Nicknacky · 09/08/2018 11:16

Yes you would be unreasonable to consider stopping her seeing your children FFS.

And for what it’s worth I don’t par consider my Bil and SIL as family. If relationships break up I would probably see them again but I would the kids. Nothing to do with not respecting them.

Advice79 · 09/08/2018 11:18

Just to add context FIL is in late 70's, and has a home abroad, of which he spends 6-8 months of the year. He runs a v v small business there, but comes back for a few months of the year to the UK. He is capable of running a business in home country as it's very old school word of mouth, but he can't use internet/modern technology if this helps

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AnnieAnoniMoose · 09/08/2018 11:18

Would DH go NC with her too?

LlamaPyjamas · 09/08/2018 11:19

What a bitch! Tell her that as you’re not family she can do everything for FIL in future. And mean it! Also if you’re not family then you won’t bother her any more, and go NC.

Advice79 · 09/08/2018 11:20

Hi Annie I've said that's upto him. He has said he will need to stay in touch with her re their parents and any issues, but agrees with me that anything else he wants to NC

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Nicknacky · 09/08/2018 11:21

I think you are blowing this out of proportion.

Advice79 · 09/08/2018 11:22

Hi Nicknacky he can't use email/any type of technology 😂

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Advice79 · 09/08/2018 11:23

Hi @Nicknacky can I ask why? I'm genuinely interested as I can't see how, and would be interesting in seeing this from another perspective

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KurriKurri · 09/08/2018 11:25

I think it is possible that your FIL is slightly intimidated by his DD and is saying oen thing to her and another to you. Sounds as if he is fine with you being in the loop, but when questioned by her he said it wasn't what he wanted - that might be theposition he os coming from - she is forceful in not wanting you involved andhe is going along with what she says and saying something different to you. (i say this because I have a very similar situation in my family and I have now washed my hands of it all because it is stressful and petty)

As others have said if you FIL is capable of working abroad he is capable of sorting out his own medicla business and writing his ownletters. I would tell him that from now on you won;t be doing any of that because you are getting grief from SIL over it and if he doesn;t like it he needs to take it up with her. And if he wants someone to run his life then SIL is the one he should ask.

And I would ditch SIL - she sounds like a miserable controlling arse. let her see how she likes doing the running around her Dad.

I wouldn't hesitate to include my DDIL in all matters - i regard her as my very close family, like a DD and my actula DD would have no problem at all with DDIL being included in all important (and unimportant) family matters. Your SIL is annoyed by your relationship with her Dad and feels you are usurping her role - but then she's shown no inclination to do all the donkey work for him.

Ditch her, and concentrate on looking after yourself and looking forward to your new baby - that's what matters now.

purplecorkheart · 09/08/2018 11:30

Honestly, I think you fil needs to start taking responsibility.

He is running a business abroad, I assume paying taxes there so he should be getting his healthcare there when he is there rather than having people running around after him.

He needs to learn how to email. While I don't agree with sil behaviour by any means I see why she is not running around collecting prescriptions for him.

Dermymc · 09/08/2018 11:31

I think your fil is a cf for living abroad and using the NHS for his medical needs.

Your sil sounds deranged too.

Leave them all to it.

diddl · 09/08/2018 11:31

"he can't use internet/modern technology if this helps"

Well if he needs to due to being out of the country for 6months then he'll have to learn.

I can't help thinking that you jumped the gun a bit with your letter.

Surely he could be contacted directly re the repeat blood test?

What if he falls ill when he is abroad?

Are you expected to rush out & deal with appointments??

Nicknacky · 09/08/2018 11:33

Because it’s an over reaction on both your parts and going NC (which I fucking despise as a MN saying) is a total over reaction and as you have done it with your own family it makes me wonder if you are the common denominator?

Keep your distance from her sure, but why bring your kids into it? It’s a fuss over nothing and I do think you should have kept out of it in the first place. Your FIL didn’t ask you to be involved in the doc correspondence it was you that introduced it and you that is writing letters.

Lifeinthelastlane · 09/08/2018 11:40

Medical care of an elderly parent is an emotional thing and I can understand where his daughter is coming from in this. I don't get the "quickly drafted letter" bit at all it seems interfering. You obviously play a meaningful role in his life but you are not next of kin.

daughterofanarchy · 09/08/2018 11:43

Wow. Your sister in law is a bitch!

MatildaTheCat · 09/08/2018 11:43

The only person who needs to be comfortable with medical communications is your FIL. He does, in fact appear to be allowing you do do all the legwork while he is too helpless to take care of himself.

SIL sounds petty but has jealousy issues. Leave her to it and have a period of low contact. It will blow over. She will never be a fan of yours but so what?

Someone could teach FIL how to send an email and much of this will be sorted. I’m finding it hard to imagine how he navigates his lifestyle without any technology.

SnuggyBuggy · 09/08/2018 11:44

TBH it sounds like FIL could take some more responsibility especially in light of his kids squabbling.

Advice79 · 09/08/2018 11:44

Hi @nickynack thanks for clarifying, just for context I've NC some family members due to denying to people DH is family as he is a different nationality/colour, not the same as this situation but definitely reasonable to NC, so I dont think I'm the common denominator.
I'm very careful in terms of the people in have in my life and around my kids. I think that having a person who thinks it's OK to say I'm not family but my kids are her family even though I'm still married (happily) to her brother doesn't bode well for any future relationship for anyone, and it shows a lack of respect for us. I don't NC people without full considerations for the consequences but this attitude is definitely not one I want my kids around. I think I mentioned that this episode with her is in a long list of others over the years hence me considering the NC.

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Melliegrantfirstlady · 09/08/2018 11:47

All very dramatic. You don’t need access to his medical records and I can’t understand why you’d bother telling the SiL

Her response was disproportionate.

If the guy is capable enough of running a business and flying abroad (and managing himself whilst there) I absolutely believe he is capable of picking up his own prescriptions etc

KoolAidPickle · 09/08/2018 11:47

I think your email to her was incredibly rude, and you caused most of the issue here. It says a lot that you have dumped your own family for their "attitudes towards you" and are now seeking to cut off your sil as well. Do you think maybe its you?

Nicknacky · 09/08/2018 11:48

I also explained I don’t consider my SIL/bil as “family” . Extended family yes but they aren’t mine and she might feel the same no matter how much she likes you. She just thinks that her fathers medical matters should rest with his off spring, and I agree with her.